2019 Minor Leagues/Prospect Discussion Thread

Graham's Cracker · Post #301 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:01 am

An interesting guy for me is Taylor Cole. He pitched today and went 6.2 solid innings again today giving up 2 earned runs on 5 hits and 2 walks with 7 K's.

He's been pretty effective all along through his minor league career, yet this year he's getting a lot more K's (10.77/9 IP vs career 7.03/9 IP) and has trimmed his walk numbers (2.22 per 9 IP vs career 3.60 per 9 IP).

On the around the nest blog they said that he's changed his repertoire a little bit this year. Last year in Lansing he was relying mostly on his change. This year, he's gone fastball, slider with the change as the third pitch in his arsenal with an occasional splitter. He doesn't have an overpowering fastball, should be interesting to see if he can maintain this effectiveness at AA.

In 9 games he's had K's of:
7
9
7
9
8
7
4
5
7

dagger · Post #302 » by **dagger** » Mon May 19, 2014 10:39 pm

A perplexing performance by Sanchez. Leaves after five, giving up two runs but only one earned, strikes out six but walks four, hits two batters and allows three stolen bases. The most distressing stat: Threw 47 strikes and 45 balls. Ya, I suppose it could have been worse.

Raps_Swingman · Post #303 » by **Raps_Swingman** » Tue May 20, 2014 12:38 am

dagger wrote:A perplexing performance by Sanchez. Leaves after five, giving up two runs but only one earned, strikes out six but walks four, hits two batters and allows three stolen bases. The most distressing stat: Threw 47 strikes and 45 balls. Ya, I suppose it could have been worse.

His lines have been quite odd all season. No one really seems to be hitting him but he obviously is allowing base runners via the free pass. I don't think its anything to panic about at this stage, but the trend is a bit troublesome.

Graham's Cracker · Post #304 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Tue May 20, 2014 12:43 am

Unfortunate news in Jays camp today

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ClintonHollon/status/468536835644588032[/tweet]

dagger · Post #305 » by **dagger** » Tue May 20, 2014 12:47 am

Graham's Cracker wrote:Unfortunate news in Jays camp today

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ClintonHollon/status/468536835644588032[/tweet]

Sure, why not, everyone else in baseball seems to be having it. It does suggest, however, that if you draft a kid with arm problems, you have to factor in the possibility of surgery into the developmental timeline. So long as that is understood - as it was with Smoral's broken foot - it's still worth the risk. However, I wonder if this will make AA a bit more cautious about considering Hoffman. Maybe Drew Hutchinson's recovery is a counterweight to this news. leo, good to see that Osuna is doing long toss.

Graham's Cracker · Post #306 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Tue May 20, 2014 12:53 am

dagger wrote:
Graham's Cracker wrote:Unfortunate news in Jays camp today

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ClintonHollon/status/468536835644588032[/tweet]

Sure, why not, everyone else in baseball seems to be having it. It does suggest, however, that if you draft a kid with arm problems, you have to factor in the possibility of surgery into the developmental timeline. So long as that is understood - as it was with Smoral's broken foot - it's still worth the risk. However, I wonder if this will make AA a bit more cautious about considering Hoffman. Maybe Drew Hutchinson's recovery is a counterweight to this news. leo, good to see that Osuna is doing long toss.

That's right, might as well get it outta the way. I wouldn't let a TJ surgery discourage drafting someone, however, with Hollon's case, I believe there have been concerns about his mechanics in the past.

Randle McMurphy · Post #307 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Tue May 20, 2014 1:59 am

The fact that Sanchez is still not throwing strikes in his 5th minor league season doesn't exactly bode well.

Graham's Cracker · Post #308 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Tue May 20, 2014 2:21 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:The fact that Sanchez is still not throwing strikes in his 5th minor league season doesn't exactly bode well.

He's been so hard to hit for the opposition, you've got to wonder if he is one of these guys that have trouble pitching to contact. I'm sure the coaching is drilling this home, but even with the crazy high walk totals his other numbers look pretty good.

Raps_Swingman · Post #309 » by **Raps_Swingman** » Tue May 20, 2014 2:35 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:The fact that Sanchez is still not throwing strikes in his 5th minor league season doesn't exactly bode well.

I still think at 21, turning 22 soon, he obviously has time to correct his wildness.

Here is a decent article with a video from the AFL where you can see some of the issues that Keith Law and Stoeten have pointed out.

http://www.xnsports.com/2014/05/19/fantasy-baseball-prospects-toronto-blue-jays-aaron-sanchez/

In 48.1 IP he's walked 30 and struckout 41.

Michael Bradley · Post #310 » by **Michael Bradley** » Tue May 20, 2014 2:48 am

Graham's Cracker wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:The fact that Sanchez is still not throwing strikes in his 5th minor league season doesn't exactly bode well.

He's been so hard to hit for the opposition, you've got to wonder if he is one of these guys that have trouble pitching to contact. I'm sure the coaching is drilling this home, but even with the crazy high walk totals his other numbers look pretty good.

The worry with Sanchez is not only walks (which is a huge concern), but also declining K rates. His K/9 has gone from 9.7 to 7.8 to 7.3 from 2012-14 respectively. When you combine that with his terrible walk rate, it's definitely a huge concern. So far this season he has walked 30 batters in 48.1 innings and only struck out 41.

It is too early to write him off, but I'm not going to be overly optimistic about him until he starts to show some improvement in key areas. He's been lapped by Norris already.

vaff87 · Post #311 » by **vaff87** » Tue May 20, 2014 3:42 am

Michael Bradley wrote:
Graham's Cracker wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:The fact that Sanchez is still not throwing strikes in his 5th minor league season doesn't exactly bode well.

He's been so hard to hit for the opposition, you've got to wonder if he is one of these guys that have trouble pitching to contact. I'm sure the coaching is drilling this home, but even with the crazy high walk totals his other numbers look pretty good.

The worry with Sanchez is not only walks (which is a huge concern), but also declining K rates. His K/9 has gone from 9.7 to 7.8 to 7.3 from 2012-14 respectively. When you combine that with his terrible walk rate, it's definitely a huge concern. So far this season he has walked 30 batters in 48.1 innings and only struck out 41.

It is too early to write him off, but I'm not going to be overly optimistic about him until he starts to show some improvement in key areas. He's been lapped by Norris already.

I would assume, given his ridiculous walk totals, he's not worried about striking guys out, just getting the damn ball over the plate.

Graham's Cracker · Post #312 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Wed May 21, 2014 12:10 am

a couple of good pitching matchups in the minors today:

in New Hampshire Deck McGuire VS Jesse Biddle
A Deckuva outing for Deck. 8 innings 4 hits, 1 earned run (solo HR), 2 BB, 9 K

in Lansing today Ryne Stanek VS Chase De Jong
De Jong won this matchup after Stanek gave up 4 in the bottom of the 6th. De Jong went 5 gave up 3 runs on 6 hits with 3 k.

Stroman pitched in the loss today for the Bisons. He went 5 innings and gave up 3 runs (3-run HR) in the 4th inning. Was able to toss 64 pitches.

Lateral Quicks · Post #313 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Wed May 21, 2014 1:40 am

Nick Franklin just got recalled from the PCL where he owned to the tune of 1.100 OPS in 133 plate appearances. He'd sure look good at 2B for us; unfortunately his price has probably gone up from the offseason when I thought he should be our prime trade target.

dagger · Post #314 » by **dagger** » Wed May 21, 2014 3:56 am

Graham's Cracker wrote:a couple of good pitching matchups in the minors today:

in New Hampshire Deck McGuire VS Jesse Biddle
A Deckuva outing for Deck. 8 innings 4 hits, 1 earned run (solo HR), 2 BB, 9 K

in Lansing today Ryne Stanek VS Chase De Jong
De Jong won this matchup after Stanek gave up 4 in the bottom of the 6th. De Jong went 5 gave up 3 runs on 6 hits with 3 k.

Stroman pitched in the loss today for the Bisons. He went 5 innings and gave up 3 runs (3-run HR) in the 4th inning. Was able to toss 64 pitches.

i can see Deck getting a promotion. He (finally) seems to be mastering AA. The two walks were in the first inning, too, so he had good control the rest of the way

Graham's Cracker · Post #315 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Wed May 21, 2014 12:03 pm

dagger wrote:
Graham's Cracker wrote:a couple of good pitching matchups in the minors today:

in New Hampshire Deck McGuire VS Jesse Biddle
A Deckuva outing for Deck. 8 innings 4 hits, 1 earned run (solo HR), 2 BB, 9 K

in Lansing today Ryne Stanek VS Chase De Jong
De Jong won this matchup after Stanek gave up 4 in the bottom of the 6th. De Jong went 5 gave up 3 runs on 6 hits with 3 k.

Stroman pitched in the loss today for the Bisons. He went 5 innings and gave up 3 runs (3-run HR) in the 4th inning. Was able to toss 64 pitches.

i can see Deck getting a promotion. He (finally) seems to be mastering AA. The two walks were in the first inning, too, so he had good control the rest of the way

Yeah, he's totally due for a promotion. Maybe it's time to set RickyRo free and promote Deck to take his spot. Even though he gave up the one home run last night, he's done a much better job of keeping the ball in the yard. Going back to last August when he turned things around his HR/9 is 0.45.

satyr9 · Post #316 » by **satyr9** » Wed May 21, 2014 3:35 pm

32 Walks in 7 starts at AAA. Whatever glimmer of hope he'd come out the other side there might've been in ST, it's long gone now. I doubt we cut him off the roster as we'll hold out hope he finds a way to injure himself for the insurance. If guys like Shawn Hill are the types filling in behind a Hendriks call-up, then you might as well keep starting Ricky as more innings means more chances to break him, which would be a very good use of assets in minor league development. It's hard to develop a player worth 8m in savings.

Of course if prospects force it there's no reason to keep Ricky in the rotation, but BUF is Drabek/Nolin/Stroman/Ricky/Hill right now isn't it? (GC, you'd obviously know far better than I) Hill is first to go as he's the very definition of organizational filler and unless Sanchez earns a call-up as well (he might even if he can't throw strikes) I'm not sure who else would supplant Ricky.

I am curious to see how long Norris and/or Cole have to go at Dunedin before they join Boyd at AA, not that his promotion looks that good on paper so far.

Graham's Cracker · Post #317 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Wed May 21, 2014 5:12 pm

satyr9 wrote:32 Walks in 7 starts at AAA. Whatever glimmer of hope he'd come out the other side there might've been in ST, it's long gone now. I doubt we cut him off the roster as we'll hold out hope he finds a way to injure himself for the insurance. If guys like Shawn Hill are the types filling in behind a Hendriks call-up, then you might as well keep starting Ricky as more innings means more chances to break him, which would be a very good use of assets in minor league development. It's hard to develop a player worth 8m in savings.

Of course if prospects force it there's no reason to keep Ricky in the rotation, but BUF is Drabek/Nolin/Stroman/Ricky/Hill right now isn't it? (GC, you'd obviously know far better than I) Hill is first to go as he's the very definition of organizational filler and unless Sanchez earns a call-up as well (he might even if he can't throw strikes) I'm not sure who else would supplant Ricky.

I am curious to see how long Norris and/or Cole have to go at Dunedin before they join Boyd at AA, not that his promotion looks that good on paper so far.

I think Jenkins was put back in to the rotation in Buf. this past week. However, the littlest(6'4" 235) hobo will probably be on the move somewhere else by the time Deck is promoted.

I like your thinking on Ricky. Send him out for his next game, pitch him 'til his arm falls off or he walks 75 batters and quits baseball mid-game.

dagger · Post #318 » by **dagger** » Wed May 21, 2014 8:01 pm

The question with Romero is whether he is holding up organizational development. Assuming Hendricks is not long with the Jays - until informed otherwise, Santos will return in a week or two (probably) and Brandon Morrow will return in July - then Ricky is taking up a spot that could be filled at BUF by Deck, and Deck is occupying a spot that could go to Norris or Cole.

It's the same issue I have with bringing back Kenny Wilson. What's the logic about plugging in a now past-prospect in NH's lineup when guys like Pompey and/or Smith look ready for a promotion? If they need a little more time in DUN, wasn't there a veteran on the NH roster who could have served as a placeholder?

There There · Post #319 » by **There There** » Thu May 22, 2014 12:42 am

Pompey with his fifth homer and has gone deep in back to back games now.

I said before that he has enough pop in his bat to be a seriously legit prospect and it's starting to come now.

Both him and Smith should be deserving of bumps to NH by June if they keep this up.

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Post #320 » by **Schad** » Thu May 22, 2014 12:47 am

There There wrote:Pompey with his fifth homer and has gone deep in back to back games now.

I said before that he has enough pop in his bat to be a seriously legit prospect and it's starting to come now.

Both him and Smith should be deserving of bumps to NH by June if they keep this up.

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That's four homers in ten games, plus another three doubles...I had doubts about his power, but he's rather quickly alleviating those.

Daniel Norris continues to be ridiculous: 5 IP, 3 hits, 1 run (unearned), 2 walks, 4 stirkeouts. Continue being ridiculous, Daniel Norris.