World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM

[JCP11]

We need hitters with actual talent. Expecting scrubs like Clement and Lukes to repeat their performances from these playoffs/this season and not going out to sign real MLB hitters would be malpractice.

Order of business this off-season needs to be:

1. Re-sign Bo or sign a replacement (like Kyle Tucker). I'd go after one more above-average bat as well to hedge against a Springer decline (in general, we have too many defense-first players).
2. Sign 2 front-end starters. We only have 3 starters going into next season right now, a rookie, a 35 year-old, and a #4-5 starter.
3. Acquire a closer (ideally via trade).

We need to be in $300-350M payroll territory next season if we want to stay relevant.

I,m not saying I expect Clement Lukes or the rest of the "GLUEJAYS" to repeat their performance.No way would i ever want to get rid of any of them.Not just because they are Popkins proteges,but because they are good team players.We found something special with these guys.Not losing 1st place ,and holding onto it from July until the end of the reg.We beat some of the best pitchers in the league,in the world in the post season,and it wasn,t a fluke,and they dont cost a ton right now.We should ride this as long as we can with them.Popkins has proven to be one of the best if not the best hitting coaches in baseball,and we got him,and we are gonna keep him.IKF has to go.We cant have any room anymore for guys who cannot perform consistently if we are serious about winning.Its like Josh said,and they listened to him("Not the try league,but get er done league").Clement is up for 2 gold gloves,and one is for utility player.He is amazing,and he can really hit.He really took to hitting under Popkins.He knows what he is doing.These "GLUEJAYS" can only get better under Popkins with the type of HC he is saying "you do you at the plate".That is the best kind of HC you can have.Our ex HC was trying to tell players what they should do at the plate.Popkins makes his players feel comfortable in their own skin at the plate,and thats half the battle.Gluejays term was a nickname mlb network gave them a the bottom of the order where we led the league in production for the entire season.

Clement is a good player, but he was a league average hitter all of this season and last season. His playoff run was a massive fluke he's unlikely to ever come close to repeating.

Lukes should not be an everyday player. He doesn't do anything well enough to justify a spot in the lineup. He can come off the bench.

We need more consistent offensive talent on the team.

I'm not so sure about your Clement take. This year was a breakthrough year for him, he was never a regular but this year was his first time playing a full season and he got career highs in hits and average and took all that to the next level in the playoffs. You can't ignore the fact that he hit some of the greatest pitchers in the league consistently. I don't expect him to hit like that in the regular season, What he did in the playoffs was nuts but at least what he did in the regular season or even better, thats still a really good player.

[Raps in 4]

I,m not saying I expect Clement Lukes or the rest of the "GLUEJAYS" to repeat their performance.No way would i ever want to get rid of any of them.Not just because they are Popkins proteges,but because they are good team players.We found something special with these guys.Not losing 1st place ,and holding onto it from July until the end of the reg.We beat some of the best pitchers in the league,in the world in the post season,and it wasn,t a fluke,and they dont cost a ton right now.We should ride this as long as we can with them.Popkins has proven to be one of the best if not the best hitting coaches in baseball,and we got him,and we are gonna keep him.IKF has to go.We cant have any room anymore for guys who cannot perform consistently if we are serious about winning.Its like Josh said,and they listened to him("Not the try league,but get er done league").Clement is up for 2 gold gloves,and one is for utility player.He is amazing,and he can really hit.He really took to hitting under Popkins.He knows what he is doing.These "GLUEJAYS" can only get better under Popkins with the type of HC he is saying "you do you at the plate".That is the best kind of HC you can have.Our ex HC was trying to tell players what they should do at the plate.Popkins makes his players feel comfortable in their own skin at the plate,and thats half the battle.Gluejays term was a nickname mlb network gave them a the bottom of the order where we led the league in production for the entire season.

Clement is a good player, but he was a league average hitter all of this season and last season. His playoff run was a massive fluke he's unlikely to ever come close to repeating.

Lukes should not be an everyday player. He doesn't do anything well enough to justify a spot in the lineup. He can come off the bench.

We need more consistent offensive talent on the team.

I'm not so sure about your Clement take. This year was a breakthrough year for him, he was never a regular but this year was his first time playing a full season and he got career highs in hits and average and took all that to the next level in the playoffs. You can't ignore the fact that he hit some of the greatest pitchers in the league consistently. I don't expect him to hit like that in the regular season, What he did in the playoffs was nuts but at least what he did in the regular season or even better, thats still a really good player.

He was a 98 wRC+ hitter this season, the same as last season (94). That's a sample size of 296 games/1040 PAs. He's had stretches where he was hot, but on the whole, he's just been an average hitter.

[Randle McMurphy]

Clement is a good player, but he was a league average hitter all of this season and last season. His playoff run was a massive fluke he's unlikely to ever come close to repeating.

Lukes should not be an everyday player. He doesn't do anything well enough to justify a spot in the lineup. He can come off the bench.

We need more consistent offensive talent on the team.

I'm not so sure about your Clement take. This year was a breakthrough year for him, he was never a regular but this year was his first time playing a full season and he got career highs in hits and average and took all that to the next level in the playoffs. You can't ignore the fact that he hit some of the greatest pitchers in the league consistently. I don't expect him to hit like that in the regular season, What he did in the playoffs was nuts but at least what he did in the regular season or even better, thats still a really good player.

He was a 98 wRC+ hitter this season, the same as last season (94). That's a sample size of 296 games/1040 PAs. He's had stretches where he was hot, but on the whole, he's just been an average hitter.

I agree that he's an average hitter at best. But an average hitter playing elite defense at his level is incredibly valuable at his price. He's gonna start at 2B or 3B next season.

Lukes absolutely should be replaced though.

[Cyrus]

I'm still in a daze. It's like a neverending hangover that I can't shake.

I'm trying to watch NBA/NFL to get over it but I just find myself staring at the screen not even registering what's happening in the game..

This **** broke me. I came into this season expecting nothing but was sucked back in when they made their run early in the summer.

It sucks that the Raptors are garbage right now and I don't care much about hockey. At least the Bills are still good, but all they do is deliver heartbreak as well.

Toronto sports **** blow.

That's cause we'll never get this kind of repeated performance from our waiver wire / career minor leaguers again, if we were the dodgers and lost, it still can be an easy path to get right back... For us sooo many thing broke unbelievable right, came together for us to be in this position.

When we had Hoffman pitching to Roja, it was 92% win probability....it would be seriously like straw hitting a home run to tie the game...that's how nuts it is.


IT's all hindsight, but why didn't do we hit run with Kirk up, he's generally a good contact hitter or send barger on steal, yeah you never want to be 2nd out, but having kirk at bat, is always DP risk. Or was pinch hitting never considered say Francis? Not to say he'd done better...

[Randle McMurphy]

I'm still in a daze. It's like a neverending hangover that I can't shake.

I'm trying to watch NBA/NFL to get over it but I just find myself staring at the screen not even registering what's happening in the game..

This **** broke me. I came into this season expecting nothing but was sucked back in when they made their run early in the summer.

It sucks that the Raptors are garbage right now and I don't care much about hockey. At least the Bills are still good, but all they do is deliver heartbreak as well.

Toronto sports **** blow.

That's cause we'll never get this kind of repeated performance from our waiver wire / career minor leaguers again, if we were the dodgers and lost, it still can be an easy path to get right back... For us sooo many thing broke unbelievable right, came together for us to be in this position.

When we had Hoffman pitching to Roja, it was 92% win probability....it would be seriously like straw hitting a home run to tie the game...that's how nuts it is.


IT's all hindsight, but why didn't do we hit run with Kirk up, he's generally a good contact hitter or send barger on steal, yeah you never want to be 2nd out, but having kirk at bat, is always DP risk. Or was pinch hitting never considered say Francis? Not to say he'd done better...

Hit and run there is a massive risk with as good as Yamamoto is and how many whiffs he draws. No, with a runner on 3rd, you want one of your best hitters swinging away and trying to get a hit.

And assume you mean Ty France who is also one of the slowest baserunners in baseball. A groundball there (which he hits a ton of) wouldn't have worked any better

[DelAbbot]

He was a 98 wRC+ hitter this season, the same as last season (94). That's a sample size of 296 games/1040 PAs. He's had stretches where he was hot, but on the whole, he's just been an average hitter.

He produced 5.3 fWar in that 1040 PAs, with his defense (and some baserunning). That's a rate of 3.3 fWar / 650 PA, which is first division starter. At 1st year arbitrary salary, Clement is a must keep in the starting lineup, to free up money for other holes on our team.

[linery88]

We need hitters with actual talent. Expecting scrubs like Clement and Lukes to repeat their performances from these playoffs/this season and not going out to sign real MLB hitters would be malpractice.

Order of business this off-season needs to be:

1. Re-sign Bo or sign a replacement (like Kyle Tucker). I'd go after one more above-average bat as well to hedge against a Springer decline (in general, we have too many defense-first players).
2. Sign 2 front-end starters. We only have 3 starters going into next season right now, a rookie, a 35 year-old, and a #4-5 starter.
3. Acquire a closer (ideally via trade).

We need to be in $300-350M payroll territory next season if we want to stay relevant.

I,m not saying I expect Clement Lukes or the rest of the "GLUEJAYS" to repeat their performance.No way would i ever want to get rid of any of them.Not just because they are Popkins proteges,but because they are good team players.We found something special with these guys.Not losing 1st place ,and holding onto it from July until the end of the reg.We beat some of the best pitchers in the league,in the world in the post season,and it wasn,t a fluke,and they dont cost a ton right now.We should ride this as long as we can with them.Popkins has proven to be one of the best if not the best hitting coaches in baseball,and we got him,and we are gonna keep him.IKF has to go.We cant have any room anymore for guys who cannot perform consistently if we are serious about winning.Its like Josh said,and they listened to him("Not the try league,but get er done league").Clement is up for 2 gold gloves,and one is for utility player.He is amazing,and he can really hit.He really took to hitting under Popkins.He knows what he is doing.These "GLUEJAYS" can only get better under Popkins with the type of HC he is saying "you do you at the plate".That is the best kind of HC you can have.Our ex HC was trying to tell players what they should do at the plate.Popkins makes his players feel comfortable in their own skin at the plate,and thats half the battle.Gluejays term was a nickname mlb network gave them a the bottom of the order where we led the league in production for the entire season.

Clement is a good player, but he was a league average hitter all of this season and last season. His playoff run was a massive fluke he's unlikely to ever come close to repeating.

Lukes should not be an everyday player. He doesn't do anything well enough to justify a spot in the lineup. He can come off the bench.

We need more consistent offensive talent on the team.

Never advocated or meant to for them to be everyday players.May have seemed that way,which was an emotional reaction to how well they performed during the entire post season.I,m saying that they should be used exactly the same way they were this season based on team results of winning the division ,and beating 2 good teams(NY-Sea),and almost a third.The Barger sub in game 3 was ridiculously stupifying though ugh.
So the f.o. is always the one who will need to do better,and be smarter on how to use,and sub these players
We got so much offensive,and defensive production out of these guys,and guys like this who hit well for us in post season can never be diminished.Based on all that i want them all back,and it shouldn,t be hard for the f.o. to know how they should be used.Rinse,Lather,Repeat
Best thing the f.o. can do is bring these guys back,and add some more value with smart spending,and see what a healthy Santander can do.I just believe so much in this team,and Popkins,and his ability to create good real hitters who dont have to play everyday,but can for stretches or to replace injured players,and can play multiple defensive positions.Guys like that are rare in this league,and on our team.

[dh_45]

With Varsho being a good bunter and Yamamoto unhittable why not have Varsho try one bunt to get ikf in from third. Freeman is a slow fielder

[polo007]

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[JCP11]

With Varsho being a good bunter and Yamamoto unhittable why not have Varsho try one bunt to get ikf in from third. Freeman is a slow fielder

I thought about it, if there was nobody at 2nd I think it would have been the right call but with the bases juiced all you have to do is throw the ball to the catcher no tag required. Not saying it wouldn't have worked but it's one less element to get the out.

[DelAbbot]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/postseason-managerial-report-card-john-schneider-part-1-batting/

At the end of the day, many of Schneider’s offensive moves seemed to come down to him liking to make moves.

except he didn't move Varsho down the lineup when Varsho went cold as ice

[fbalmeida]

Three days later. Pain.

[ItsDanger]

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The 3rd base coach was right behind IKF. Blame coaches.

Can we stop referencing anonymous online accounts as somehow legit evidence of a bigger problem? As far we know these are automated inputs.

[SaveTheHens]

I hope this becomes like the 2013 Sours where they just let it slip and it cost them and they came back and won next year. No guarantee the spurs go back to back if they win 2013 since they wouldnt have the chip on their shoulder. If we win one in the next 3 years then Id say this seasons magic contributed to that world series. One giant step in the journey hopefully it helps us come back, and be more prepared next time we’re on that stage

[Randle McMurphy]

I hope this becomes like the 2013 Sours where they just let it slip and it cost them and they came back and won next year. No guarantee the spurs go back to back if they win 2013 since they wouldnt have the chip on their shoulder. If we win one in the next 3 years then Id say this seasons magic contributed to that world series. One giant step in the journey hopefully it helps us come back, and be more prepared next time we’re on that stage

A better comp for me would be the 2014 Royals which lost in game 7 to a historic pitching performance and came back and won it all the following year. A lot easier to do that in the AL Central though.

That Spurs core group of veterans had already won titles and had loads of playoff success; they were never going anywhere.

[Madvillainy2004]

Three days later. Pain.

The sheer amount of chances we had lmao

[dafan590]

I honestly don't think we can blame the players at all
The blame should go to to john Schneider and the Analytics folks.

if we got an experience manager, this could have been a different story.

[polo007]

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[Natural11]

I honestly don't think we can blame the players at all
The blame should go to to john Schneider and the Analytics folks.

if we got an experience manager, this could have been a different story.

While Roberts did out-manage JS, it's funny how baseball works. There were at least a dozen plays, even based on sheer luck, that could have flipped and reversed the outcome to the Jays' favor. But because none of them did, we have to wield our pitch forks in an attempt to place blame on a coin flip of an outcome.

JS improved a great deal in 2025 and short of reminding him that it's ok to leave your bad players on the bench (like Roberts did), I thought he did a decent job in retrospect. Hoff manages an 8-9-1 close or IKF doesn't baserun like an incompetent and no one cares right now, we're still celebrating.

Jays entered 2025 with most feeling a WC berth would be a great outcome, Dodgers were the favorite all season while sweeping the team with the best record, we take them to the baseball equivalent of a coin flip in game 7, and we're supposed to find some blame to justify the loss? It's a game with a high luck factor and we were very unlucky in the final moments.

[LLJ]

John Schneider strikes me as more of a people person manager than a tactical one. Players seem to like him, he's your prototypical "Share a beer with" kind of guy. That has a lot of value, but you still wish he were a better balance of both.