Blue Jays (16-18) at Angels (13-20) May 6-8

[Randle McMurphy]

Hoffman turned into a pumpkin. His slider is getting knocked around.

Had no command of a single pitch he threw that inning. Even the FB strikeout was on a missed location.

The guy is already out of gas by early May.

[Randle McMurphy]

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Who is the square wheel? Ross?

[spykelee]

When is the easy part of our schedule? Any pee-wee teams upcoming?

[Mehar]

Hoffman was terrible the last two nights, but the real issue continues to lie with this pathetic offense and lack of a true big inning to give any breathing room for your overworked pitchers all year. The perfect example is that after the Jays scored three runs in the 7th inning, they had Zero Outs with a man on 1st and 2nd. You have your 500 million man coming to the plate along with your big signing Santander, and they failed to get the job done.

This team is simply allergic to scoring add on runs, and it is embarrassing to watch. The 5th highest Payroll in MLB, with a roster that is bottom tier. It all starts with the front office and its personnel decisions in the off-season, that in my opinion did not fully address the pathetic offense of the past two years. You absorb almost 100 million with Gimenez over five years, give 15.5 million to a broken down Scherzer, hand out a 5 year big money contract to an overrated guy like Santander (instead of a shorter deal to Teoscar which I was hoping for), and then you have Clown Atkins talking about "Power" being the "low-hanging" fruit.

You have a lineup with the a second baseman making big money who is Ryan Goins 2.0, an everyday third basemen like Clement who is a bench player, and a player like Santander who has a (-O.5 WAR) right now. You also needed to use your financial resources wisely to address two more reliable arms in the bullpen, but Atkins thought Jacob Barnes and Lovelady were the answers. You also needed another quality bat in the outfield, instead of counting on bench guys like Roden, Lukes and today a guy like Clase, to make meaningful impact on this lineup on a nightly basis.

The bottom line is after ten years of Shapiro/Atkins, it is time for Rogers ownership to pull the plug and clean house from top to bottom in the not too distant future, when this team will definitely be sellers come trade deadline. Rogers has to be commended for the payrolls they have given Atkins/Shapiro for years that has produced Zero Playoff wins under their tenure, a farm system that is one of the worst in MLB, and an aging roster with a bloated payroll that has the fewest home runs in MLB right now. Having watched this franchise since 1991 (when Toronto hosted the all-star game) which I attended as a child with my uncle and fell in love with baseball- I have never seen a Blue Jays team (even under some rough years with Gord Ash and JP Ricciardi) that was so predictable and so God Damn awful to watch.

I am already thinking ahead to 2026, and simply cannot stomach wasting my precious time anymore watching this product. It will not be pretty in the weeks ahead, when you see the schedule of teams starting with Seattle on the weekend. On the bright side, if it means this amateur manager and the clowns in the front office are fired- then by all means a long losing streak and being 10 games below .500 in a month, will be well worth it. The fans of this team across Canada deserve better than what the clowns in this front office have given us for years with this minor league offense since 2023, and their so called "Run Prevention" strategy and Garbage Analytics. Sorry for the long rant. Cannot stomach watching this team anymore unless ownership cleans house. Hopefully that day comes soon, and this organization can finally start doing a proper rebuild, which should have been done at least a year ago at a minimum.

[Asianiac_24]

We scored 3 on a fluke as well. We got 2 singles from 2 sacrifice bunts.

This team is just so hard to watch. Every game the pitcher has to throw a gem in order to have a chance, a 2 run deficit feels impossible to come back.

[Hottie McShotty]

Hoffman was terrible the last two nights, but the real issue continues to lie with this pathetic offense and lack of a true big inning to give any breathing room for your overworked pitchers all year. The perfect example is that after the Jays scored three runs in the 7th inning, they had Zero Outs with a man on 1st and 2nd. You have your 500 million man coming to the plate along with your big signing Santander, and they failed to get the job done.

This team is simply allergic to scoring add on runs, and it is embarrassing to watch. The 5th highest Payroll in MLB, with a roster that is bottom tier. It all starts with the front office and its personnel decisions in the off-season, that in my opinion did not fully address the pathetic offense of the past two years. You absorb almost 100 million with Gimenez over five years, give 15.5 million to a broken down Scherzer, hand out a 5 year big money contract to an overrated guy like Santander (instead of a shorter deal to Teoscar which I was hoping for), and then you have Clown Atkins talking about "Power" being the "low-hanging" fruit.

You have a lineup with the a second baseman making big money who is Ryan Goins 2.0, an everyday third basemen like Clement who is a bench player, and a player like Santander who has a (-O.5 WAR) right now. You also needed to use your financial resources wisely to address two more reliable arms in the bullpen, but Atkins thought Jacob Barnes and Lovelady were the answers. You also needed another quality bat in the outfield, instead of counting on bench guys like Roden, Lukes and today a guy like Clase, to make meaningful impact on this lineup on a nightly basis.

The bottom line is after ten years of Shapiro/Atkins, it is time for Rogers ownership to pull the plug and clean house from top to bottom in the not too distant future, when this team will definitely be sellers come trade deadline. Rogers has to be commended for the payrolls they have given Atkins/Shapiro for years that has produced Zero Playoff wins under their tenure, a farm system that is one of the worst in MLB, and an aging roster with a bloated payroll that has the fewest home runs in MLB right now. Having watched this franchise since 1991 (when Toronto hosted the all-star game) which I attended as a child with my uncle and fell in love with baseball- I have never seen a Blue Jays team (even under some rough years with Gord Ash and JP Ricciardi) that was so predictable and so God Damn awful to watch.

I am already thinking ahead to 2026, and simply cannot stomach wasting my precious time anymore watching this product. It will not be pretty in the weeks ahead, when you see the schedule of teams starting with Seattle on the weekend. On the bright side, if it means this amateur manager and the clowns in the front office are fired- then by all means a long losing streak and being 10 games below .500 in a month, will be well worth it. The fans of this team across Canada deserve better than what the clowns in this front office have given us for years with this minor league offense since 2023, and their so called "Run Prevention" strategy and Garbage Analytics. Sorry for the long rant. Cannot stomach watching this team anymore unless ownership cleans house. Hopefully that day comes soon, and this organization can finally start doing a proper rebuild, which should have been done at least a year ago at a minimum.

Well put and nicely summarized and you don't have to apologize for the long rant. I think most of us here have the same sentiment. Personally, I can't bear any more of this team. I had intended to attend several games this summer, but I’ve chosen to hold off and save my money. I'm not supporting this team with the way they are playing and the way they are constructed. I hope to see this team drop even further in the standings, prompting significant changes. Like you, I too have been following the Jays since the early 90s, and these are undoubtedly some of the most frustrating times as a Blue Jays fan. You can't rank in the top 5 for payroll with a losing record, while having one of the weakest minor league systems in baseball, without facing any repercussions.

[johanliebert]

Needed Berrios to go more than 6 innings to win, I expect. No RPs.

Yea I’d have brought him out for another inning or at least until he gave up another base runner. He was effectively wild last night but his pitch count was at 89.

[johanliebert]

They got these big money pitchers and won’t let them pitch into the 7th. That factor is another reason the bullpen is gassed.

[Natural11]

Hoffman was terrible the last two nights, but the real issue continues to lie with this pathetic offense and lack of a true big inning to give any breathing room for your overworked pitchers all year. The perfect example is that after the Jays scored three runs in the 7th inning, they had Zero Outs with a man on 1st and 2nd. You have your 500 million man coming to the plate along with your big signing Santander, and they failed to get the job done.

This team is simply allergic to scoring add on runs, and it is embarrassing to watch. The 5th highest Payroll in MLB, with a roster that is bottom tier. It all starts with the front office and its personnel decisions in the off-season, that in my opinion did not fully address the pathetic offense of the past two years. You absorb almost 100 million with Gimenez over five years, give 15.5 million to a broken down Scherzer, hand out a 5 year big money contract to an overrated guy like Santander (instead of a shorter deal to Teoscar which I was hoping for), and then you have Clown Atkins talking about "Power" being the "low-hanging" fruit.

You have a lineup with the a second baseman making big money who is Ryan Goins 2.0, an everyday third basemen like Clement who is a bench player, and a player like Santander who has a (-O.5 WAR) right now. You also needed to use your financial resources wisely to address two more reliable arms in the bullpen, but Atkins thought Jacob Barnes and Lovelady were the answers. You also needed another quality bat in the outfield, instead of counting on bench guys like Roden, Lukes and today a guy like Clase, to make meaningful impact on this lineup on a nightly basis.

The bottom line is after ten years of Shapiro/Atkins, it is time for Rogers ownership to pull the plug and clean house from top to bottom in the not too distant future, when this team will definitely be sellers come trade deadline. Rogers has to be commended for the payrolls they have given Atkins/Shapiro for years that has produced Zero Playoff wins under their tenure, a farm system that is one of the worst in MLB, and an aging roster with a bloated payroll that has the fewest home runs in MLB right now. Having watched this franchise since 1991 (when Toronto hosted the all-star game) which I attended as a child with my uncle and fell in love with baseball- I have never seen a Blue Jays team (even under some rough years with Gord Ash and JP Ricciardi) that was so predictable and so God Damn awful to watch.

I am already thinking ahead to 2026, and simply cannot stomach wasting my precious time anymore watching this product. It will not be pretty in the weeks ahead, when you see the schedule of teams starting with Seattle on the weekend. On the bright side, if it means this amateur manager and the clowns in the front office are fired- then by all means a long losing streak and being 10 games below .500 in a month, will be well worth it. The fans of this team across Canada deserve better than what the clowns in this front office have given us for years with this minor league offense since 2023, and their so called "Run Prevention" strategy and Garbage Analytics. Sorry for the long rant. Cannot stomach watching this team anymore unless ownership cleans house. Hopefully that day comes soon, and this organization can finally start doing a proper rebuild, which should have been done at least a year ago at a minimum.

Well said. It seems like every year I get fewer disposable hours for fun. What's the point in allocating 500 hours/year to this team when they don't even care about the product or winning?

The team was always going to be bad right from the opening day lineup. Seems like every year we roll out with a lineup based entirely on hopes and dreams of overachievement and recapturing stats from 3+ years ago.

Guys like Bo, Kirk and Gimenez were all terrible at the plate last year, and here we are slotting them in like 2022 production is back on the menu. Same **** every year with this FO.

[Madvillainy2004]

Just embarrassing Hoffman should've closed the door but we can't even win 1 game by 4+ runs. Every single game is close and our pen is already showing signs of fatigue.

[Parataxis]

When is the easy part of our schedule? Any pee-wee teams upcoming?

Well, we're playing the Angels on the 8th, and they've been having an awful season.

[Jago88]

When is the easy part of our schedule? Any pee-wee teams upcoming?

Your schedule always look tough when your team is bad

[Hottie McShotty]

Last in home runs, last in runners left in scoring position, 26th in runs scored, 4th in active team payroll. Yikes!

[Lateral Quicks]

I'm saying Booooo, not Boo-urns.

Turf Shatkins, end the madness.

[HangTime]

If the team needs a jolt, make a bold move and call up Arjun Nimmala.

I don't care if he's only in A+, and people worrying about service time and all that. Just give him a week and see what happens.

[Randle McMurphy]

If the team needs a jolt, make a bold move and call up Arjun Nimmala.

I don't care if he's only in A+, and people worrying about service time and all that. Just give him a week and see what happens.

This team is terrible. It needs more than a jolt; it needs an entirely different roster. Bo Bichette hasn't even been a good hitter for almost two years now and he gets the most ABs on the team.

[Asianiac_24]

At this point I’m hoping we lose every game so the ownership can give up this pipe dream already and start selling. Taking Giminez for 100 million is so beyond stupid, we literally took 2 terrible contracts from Cleveland for free.

Trade everyone for prospects and hope we can field a good team in 2027 or 2028. The sooner we sell the better.

[JaysRule15]

If the team needs a jolt, make a bold move and call up Arjun Nimmala.

I don't care if he's only in A+, and people worrying about service time and all that. Just give him a week and see what happens.

It's not just about service time. Bringing him up early when he's not ready could lead to him developing bad habits or weaknesses that may take him a long time to overcome, not to mention the mental stress. Travis Snider is a good example. I still think if he hadn't been rushed up so early, he might've gone on to better than he ended up being.

[elmer_yuck]

I don’t understand how they handle the pitching. Pulling starters early. Rarely using a reliever more than one inning, or even a partial inning. That’s how you burn out a bullpen.

[johanliebert]

I don’t understand how they handle the pitching. Pulling starters early. Rarely using a reliever more than one inning, or even a partial inning. That’s how you burn out a bullpen.

They refuse to let Berrios see a lineup 3x over. I wonder how they develop minor league pitching now, the mindset must be to get through 5 innings and you did your job.