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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#421 » by Madvillainy2004 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:35 pm

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Madvillainy2004 wrote:Jays making a strong push to keep Chapman which is.....worrying


Worried about this, appearently offered 4 years and 100 mil +

Take out the first month of the year, and Chapman was a below average hitter the rest of the year. His defense was very good, but it is a terrible mistake to tie up 25 million a year on Chapman on a long-term deal. It is double what he was making this year (12 million). I am hoping Shapiro/Atkins come to their senses, and realize that there is a better use of that money elsewhere. Hope this rumour is not true.


Take out his first month and he was one of the worst hitters in baseball like legit bottom 5 he was absolutely horrible.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#422 » by Mehar » Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:22 pm

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Worried about this, appearently offered 4 years and 100 mil +

Take out the first month of the year, and Chapman was a below average hitter the rest of the year. His defense was very good, but it is a terrible mistake to tie up 25 million a year on Chapman on a long-term deal. It is double what he was making this year (12 million). I am hoping Shapiro/Atkins come to their senses, and realize that there is a better use of that money elsewhere. Hope this rumour is not true.


Take out his first month and he was one of the worst hitters in baseball like legit bottom 5 he was absolutely horrible.

Chapman was absolutely horrible after the first month hitting wise. A Black Hole in the lineup especially with RISP. I cannot believe this front office is considering doubling his salary from 12 million to 25 million, and offering him a long-term contract. Bad allocation of dollars. Like I said, I am hoping it is just a rumour and even Shapiro/Atkins are wise enough to not offer him the numbers he is looking for.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#423 » by Harry Palmer » Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:42 pm

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that discrepancy will only grow after we add moreno and gurriel to that list after next season



Yeah, age and injuries are definitely looking like they’ll slow Moreno down. But he was good way back in his ~ 2015 prime.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#424 » by Cyrus » Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:00 pm

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Mehar wrote:Take out the first month of the year, and Chapman was a below average hitter the rest of the year. His defense was very good, but it is a terrible mistake to tie up 25 million a year on Chapman on a long-term deal. It is double what he was making this year (12 million). I am hoping Shapiro/Atkins come to their senses, and realize that there is a better use of that money elsewhere. Hope this rumour is not true.


Take out his first month and he was one of the worst hitters in baseball like legit bottom 5 he was absolutely horrible.

Chapman was absolutely horrible after the first month hitting wise. A Black Hole in the lineup especially with RISP. I cannot believe this front office is considering doubling his salary from 12 million to 25 million, and offering him a long-term contract. Bad allocation of dollars. Like I said, I am hoping it is just a rumour and even Shapiro/Atkins are wise enough to not offer him the numbers he is looking for.


You can't afford even if he's getting 15 mil, similar Blackhole, hr or strikeout hitters if your already carrying varsho, can't have another similarish player even if the Def is elite.

Better allocate those dollars for something else
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Post#425 » by polo007 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:09 pm

Demolition of Rogers Centre lower bowl complete as second phase of renovations begins | TSN.ca

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TORONTO — Rogers Centre is unrecognizable after extensive renovations began on the downtown Toronto ballpark last month.

The Toronto Blue Jays released photos of the demolition of most of the stadium's lower bowl on Tuesday. Photos and video show that the field and all the seats on the 100 level have been torn out.

The Major League Baseball team says that 29.5 million pounds of materials were removed from the stadium Oct. 13 to 26. That amount includes 26.5 million pounds of concrete and three million pounds of steel

A temporary bridge was installed over the site of the former seating bowl, according to the Blue Jays. At the peak of demolition and excavation work, 10 excavators were on site with 344 trucks cycling in and out of Rogers Centre over the temporary bridge in one day.

It's the second phase of renovations at Rogers Centre, which will become the sixth-oldest active MLB ballpark once the Athletics complete their move from Oakland, Calif., to Las Vegas.


Rogers Centre's upper bowl underwent significant changes last off-season.

For the new phase of demolition an average of 350 workers have been on site daily, more than three times the number of workers compared to phase one's demolition.

Formwork for the new build began and the first new concrete was poured on the same day demolition was completed. The Blue Jays say that 500 truckloads worth of concrete are expected to be poured to complete the project.


The first structural steel column was put up on Nov. 13. A total of 2.4 million pounds of structural steel has been fabricated offsite and will be installed at Rogers Centre to complete the project.

The team says that the second phase of Rogers Centre's renovations will be complete for the home opener on April 8.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#426 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:36 pm

raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#427 » by Raptors Realtor » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:12 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Bichette to the Cubs? Seems to be trending in rumors.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-cubs/cubs-new-trade-target-is-bo-bichette-to-play-third-base/


Don't see it happening, unless the trade package from any team is centred around proven young high upside mlb players and prospects. Morel is intriguing, but inconsistent, so he can't be the centrepiece of the deal, he'd be more of a secondary piece, and I'm not sure if prospects like Armstrong & Horton are enough to make up the gap. The thought of replacing our best hitter (.300 avg) with Morel who's average is similar to Chapman's would give me huge concern.

Would be curious to see what the Dodgers could offer, although don't really want to strengthen that club, unless it's a massive overpay... Bo is a higher priority to re-sign than Guerrero.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#428 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:54 pm

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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Bichette to the Cubs? Seems to be trending in rumors.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-cubs/cubs-new-trade-target-is-bo-bichette-to-play-third-base/


Don't see it happening, unless the trade package from any team is centred around proven young high upside mlb players and prospects. Morel is intriguing, but inconsistent, so he can't be the centrepiece of the deal, he'd be more of a secondary piece, and I'm not sure if prospects like Armstrong & Horton are enough to make up the gap. The thought of replacing our best hitter (.300 avg) with Morel who's average is similar to Chapman's would give me huge concern.

Would be curious to see what the Dodgers could offer, although don't really want to strengthen that club, unless it's a massive overpay... Bo is a higher priority to re-sign than Guerrero.


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Post#430 » by bballsparkin » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:39 am

As a long time Jays fan that casually pays attention to the league these days I say trade Bo. His defence is lacking. But he can hit. And I'm not sure I trust this FO to make that trade...
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#431 » by Madvillainy2004 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:44 pm

The Jays won't be signing Ohtani but the news is fun at least.
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Post#432 » by polo007 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:36 pm

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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#433 » by Cyrus » Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:35 am

I wonder why they got rid of Ben Wagner, he did a fine job as radio play by play.
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Post#434 » by SharoneWright » Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:09 am

What the Frick. Ben did as good as anyone could expect on the heels of an institution like Howarth. He was fine+
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Post#436 » by Brinbe » Sat Dec 2, 2023 12:40 am

Way more inclined to believe the possiblity of Soto. Would fit a lot of holes/needs.
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Post#437 » by WaltFrazier » Sat Dec 2, 2023 4:19 am

SharoneWright wrote:What the Frick. Ben did as good as anyone could expect on the heels of an institution like Howarth. He was fine+

Did the radio guys ever travel to away games this year?

I miss Jerry, a real baseball guy. I liked Wagner ok but some games I couldn't tell his voice apart from the color guy, whoever it was. Young Shulman maybe.
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Post#438 » by Cyrus » Sat Dec 2, 2023 5:15 am

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SharoneWright wrote:What the Frick. Ben did as good as anyone could expect on the heels of an institution like Howarth. He was fine+

Did the radio guys ever travel to away games this year?

I miss Jerry, a real baseball guy. I liked Wagner ok but some games I couldn't tell his voice apart from the color guy, whoever it was. Young Shulman maybe.


No, this how they cheaped out on the radio pbp, they would do the broadcast from "Home" - Covid thought them they could get away with it, and save on flight/travel and per deim costs. Only the TV crew gets to travel.
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Post#439 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Dec 2, 2023 5:37 am

Nothing against Wagner the person, but I hated his call of the games. Shulman's son was much better.
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Post#440 » by WaltFrazier » Sat Dec 2, 2023 5:51 pm

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SharoneWright wrote:What the Frick. Ben did as good as anyone could expect on the heels of an institution like Howarth. He was fine+

Did the radio guys ever travel to away games this year?

I miss Jerry, a real baseball guy. I liked Wagner ok but some games I couldn't tell his voice apart from the color guy, whoever it was. Young Shulman maybe.


No, this how they cheaped out on the radio pbp, they would do the broadcast from "Home" - Covid thought them they could get away with it, and save on flight/travel and per deim costs. Only the TV crew gets to travel.

I recall Jerry saying from retirement at the start of the season what a bad thing it is. And no change since I guess
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