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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#421 » by Cyrus » Mon Nov 17, 2025 6:50 pm

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Does this MotherF*cking Canadian not want to play for a Canadian team!!?!?!?

What the F*ck!??!?!


Where would you want to play him? DH? With springer/Santander basically bookmarked to be the DHs?
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#422 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Mon Nov 17, 2025 6:58 pm

I admitted I was wrong. I just want more Canadians on the team. I'm deeply patriotic.

You guys are right the fit doesn't work. What other Canadians fit on the team that are All MLB and are available this season?
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#423 » by Michael Bradley » Mon Nov 17, 2025 7:47 pm

Springer will fall off but Santander should bounce back as long as he's healthy. Not sure if those two things will net out in the end, but should bridge the gap a bit as long as Springer's fall off is more 110-120 wRC+ instead of sub-100 like he was in 2024. Santander could literally be 3 wins better in 2026 than he was in 2025 (-0.9 WAR). The Jays really need a healthy bounce back season out of him.

I agree though, sign Kyle Tucker. He's the best FA available, and the Jays have zero outfielders signed after 2026 (Varsho gone, Springer gone so Santander will move to DH, and Barger might be at 3B depending on how the off season goes). Tucker is a 130-140 wRC+ bat that hits from the left side. Power, walks, contact. There's risk with him on a long term deal, but they have to maximize 2026 wins as much as they can and worry about the payroll ramifications later. As long as they can still sign a SP after signing Tucker. The starter is going to be important too. If they want to hold off on getting a closer until the deadline, then you could probably live with the internal options until July (just give Varland or Garcia the closer role and see what happens so that we never have to watch Hoffman in the 9th again).
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#425 » by Mehar » Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:37 pm

GoRapstheoriginal wrote:I admitted I was wrong. I just want more Canadians on the team. I'm deeply patriotic.

You guys are right the fit doesn't work. What other Canadians fit on the team that are All MLB and are available this season?

Who cares if someone is Canadian or not? I just want to win baseball games. Just get the best available guys regardless of where they are from. Whether they are from Asia, South or Central America, North America, etc.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#426 » by JN » Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:54 pm

GoRapstheoriginal wrote:I admitted I was wrong. I just want more Canadians on the team. I'm deeply patriotic.

You guys are right the fit doesn't work. What other Canadians fit on the team that are All MLB and are available this season?


In terms of Free Agency pickings are limited for Canadians this year.I looked at an article that had the top 100 free agents this year. For Canadians we had:
#10. Josh Naylor
#62. Michael Soroka (SP/RP)
https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/mlb-free-agent-rankings-2025-26-kyle-tucker-dylan-cease-bo-bichette-alex-bregman-headline-top-100-list
(I didn't notice any Canadians either in the next 50)

If Soroka committed to being a reliever and gave up on being a starter there may be a fit there. He has been far better in relief the last few years (2.58 ERA , 68K's in 45 innings), but still wants to start and gets put into to start. But I suspect the Jays are looking at another options.

So it then goes to the trade market. The only realistic high level asset we could go after is Cade Smith, If we can't get an elite reliever via free agency, perhaps we veer to Cade Smith. Indians would not give him up cheap though. He still has 4 years of control (has a minimum contract in 2026). and you are going to have to give up a top 100 prospect and other prospects / players in a package. (Arjun Nimmala+)

We have money though and there are a number of relief options that are free agents. Smith may be as good as many of the choices, and cheap$, but he will cost us assets I think it makes more sense to spend a bit more in FA $ wise, and keep those assets for other moves or for us ultimately.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#427 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:19 pm

Mehar wrote:
GoRapstheoriginal wrote:I admitted I was wrong. I just want more Canadians on the team. I'm deeply patriotic.

You guys are right the fit doesn't work. What other Canadians fit on the team that are All MLB and are available this season?

Who cares if someone is Canadian or not? I just want to win baseball games. Just get the best available guys regardless of where they are from. Whether they are from Asia, South or Central America, North America, etc.


That's fair.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#428 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:20 pm

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GoRapstheoriginal wrote:I admitted I was wrong. I just want more Canadians on the team. I'm deeply patriotic.

You guys are right the fit doesn't work. What other Canadians fit on the team that are All MLB and are available this season?


In terms of Free Agency pickings are limited for Canadians this year.I looked at an article that had the top 100 free agents this year. For Canadians we had:
#10. Josh Naylor
#62. Michael Soroka (SP/RP)
https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/mlb-free-agent-rankings-2025-26-kyle-tucker-dylan-cease-bo-bichette-alex-bregman-headline-top-100-list
(I didn't notice any Canadians either in the next 50)

If Soroka committed to being a reliever and gave up on being a starter there may be a fit there. He has been far better in relief the last few years (2.58 ERA , 68K's in 45 innings), but still wants to start and gets put into to start. But I suspect the Jays are looking at another options.

So it then goes to the trade market. The only realistic high level asset we could go after is Cade Smith, If we can't get an elite reliever via free agency, perhaps we veer to Cade Smith. Indians would not give him up cheap though. He still has 4 years of control (has a minimum contract in 2026). and you are going to have to give up a top 100 prospect and other prospects / players in a package. (Arjun Nimmala+)

We have money though and there are a number of relief options that are free agents. Smith may be as good as many of the choices, and cheap$, but he will cost us assets I think it makes more sense to spend a bit more in FA $ wise, and keep those assets for other moves or for us ultimately.


Great insightful post! I agree!
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#429 » by JN » Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:38 am

I know I'm spending a lot of posts on someone as small as Sandlin (only because I am so antsy for something to happen, and need to chat about something)

But the fact that he cleared waivers has to mean that he was expected to miss much of next season with injury, even if that is not disclosed. There is no way that he would have cleared waivers if his health had recovered.

He became a free agent. He's not healthy so no point keeping him.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#430 » by JN » Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:42 am

Naylor 5/92.5

A fair contract for both sides (OPS+ of 121, 130, 118, and 128) the past four years. Solid production from a good teammate. I still can't believe he stole 19 bases in 54 games with Seattle without ever getting caught.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#431 » by Top10alltime » Tue Nov 18, 2025 1:49 pm

Sign Tatsuya Imai, or Ranger Suarez IMO, that should be our main priority. Then we can get ourselves

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Imai/Suarez
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Pretty good. Then we should get Kyle Tucker and Bo Bichette back in. Unless there's better options, which I'm open to
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#432 » by COY0607 » Tue Nov 18, 2025 4:03 pm

JN wrote:Naylor 5/92.5

A fair contract for both sides (OPS+ of 121, 130, 118, and 128) the past four years. Solid production from a good teammate. I still can't believe he stole 19 bases in 54 games with Seattle without ever getting caught.


Really good contract for the Mariners. Given his age and post season success last year, I think Naylor is set for a couple of monster seasons.

The SB thing is so weird, how does a guy who’s not particularly fast, after years in the majors become one of the best base stealers. Pitchers will be more aware of him next year thought, I don’t think he can repeat
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#434 » by Duffman100 » Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:12 pm

Getting Tucker, keeping Bo and finding a way to get Suarez/Cease would just be insane but likely unrealistic.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#435 » by Parataxis » Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:18 pm

If we can't get Bo, I wonder if it makes sense to take a run at E Suarez at 3B, and let Ernest cover 2B.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#436 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:40 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Getting Tucker, keeping Bo and finding a way to get Suarez/Cease would just be insane but likely unrealistic.


Theoretically;
If you had to pick between Tucker and Bo who are you taking?
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#437 » by Duffman100 » Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:29 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:Getting Tucker, keeping Bo and finding a way to get Suarez/Cease would just be insane but likely unrealistic.


Theoretically;
If you had to pick between Tucker and Bo who are you taking?


Oh I don't know well enough. ha! I'll let the smarter people here answer that.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#438 » by JN » Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:00 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Getting Tucker, keeping Bo and finding a way to get Suarez/Cease would just be insane but likely unrealistic.


Theoretically;
If you had to pick between Tucker and Bo who are you taking?


Tucker is probably about $10M year per more as well.

So consideration might be Tucker vs Bichette + Good Reliever**

** although FA relievers are hit and miss.
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