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Post#501 » by Schad » Sat May 28, 2022 11:13 pm

The most notable element of Tiedemann's development is that he manages to get them in the zone at a good clip for a guy whose pitches move more than almost anyone in baseball (at any level). Strike percentage in his past five: 70.7%, 65%, 75.3%, 67.1%, 73.2%. That's a pretty nice attribute to have when you're also limiting hitters to 3.2 hits per 9 innings...
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Post#502 » by vaff87 » Sun May 29, 2022 1:53 am

Schad wrote:The most notable element of Tiedemann's development is that he manages to get them in the zone at a good clip for a guy whose pitches move more than almost anyone in baseball (at any level). Strike percentage in his past five: 70.7%, 65%, 75.3%, 67.1%, 73.2%. That's a pretty nice attribute to have when you're also limiting hitters to 3.2 hits per 9 innings...


What do you think of Santos’ long-term projection? Right now, his fastball is in the low-90s, but he’s striking out nearly two batters per inning based on a slider that seems to be generating swing and misses at a ridiculous rate. And, of course, he’s only 19.
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Post#503 » by Schad » Sun May 29, 2022 4:28 am

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Schad wrote:The most notable element of Tiedemann's development is that he manages to get them in the zone at a good clip for a guy whose pitches move more than almost anyone in baseball (at any level). Strike percentage in his past five: 70.7%, 65%, 75.3%, 67.1%, 73.2%. That's a pretty nice attribute to have when you're also limiting hitters to 3.2 hits per 9 innings...


What do you think of Santos’ long-term projection? Right now, his fastball is in the low-90s, but he’s striking out nearly two batters per inning based on a slider that seems to be generating swing and misses at a ridiculous rate. And, of course, he’s only 19.


Hard to say, but there's a lot of reliever in his profile. Short, generates Ks already, if his velo plays up in shorter outings he would probably be a monster. He'll get the chance to start given his age, though.
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Post#504 » by vaff87 » Sun May 29, 2022 4:38 am

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Schad wrote:The most notable element of Tiedemann's development is that he manages to get them in the zone at a good clip for a guy whose pitches move more than almost anyone in baseball (at any level). Strike percentage in his past five: 70.7%, 65%, 75.3%, 67.1%, 73.2%. That's a pretty nice attribute to have when you're also limiting hitters to 3.2 hits per 9 innings...


What do you think of Santos’ long-term projection? Right now, his fastball is in the low-90s, but he’s striking out nearly two batters per inning based on a slider that seems to be generating swing and misses at a ridiculous rate. And, of course, he’s only 19.


Hard to say, but there's a lot of reliever in his profile. Short, generates Ks already, if his velo plays up in shorter outings he would probably be a monster. He'll get the chance to start given his age, though.


That’s kinda my sense, as well. But given how young he is, and how completely dominant he’s been, he must be doing something right. So I don’t want to pigeonhole him as a reliever.
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Post#505 » by SharoneWright » Sun May 29, 2022 4:12 pm

I literally know nothing about Gabriel Martinez? Anyone care to opine? ty
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Today we turn our attention to Gabriel Martinez.

It feels as though I’ve used the spotlight to highlight only Martinez this month. Well, here we go again. The 19-yr-old had himself the first multi-home run game of his professional career. He batted 3rd and manned right field. In the 4th inning with one out and no runners on, Martinez took a 2-0 pitch to left field for a home run. In the 6th inning, Adrian Pinto walks and Roque Salinas singled setting the stage for the scorching hot bat of Gabriel Martinez. The Mets pitcher started him off 3-0. Martinez took the next pitch for a strike. The 5th pitch of the at-bat was smashed to LF for a 3-run home run.

Martinez finished 2-for-3 with a pair of runs scored, a walk, a strikeout, two home runs, and 4RBI. Over the past 15 days, Gabriel is batting .346 with 11 runs scored and 13RBI while clubbing 4 home runs and 5 doubles. He has also walked 4 and struck out 5 times.
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Post#507 » by vaff87 » Sun May 29, 2022 6:18 pm

To answer the age question, he’s 2.2 years younger than the league average.
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Please feed my need to dream about what a Kirk+Groshans deal could actually net. Has Kirk’s bat at DH become too valuable?


Given the way Chapman's batting line is trending for the past 3 years, we might want to hold onto Groshans
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Post#510 » by Schad » Tue May 31, 2022 3:41 am

Chapman's only under control through the end of next year anyway, and we're going to need some cheaper, younger talent if we're going to keep the core together. Plus, going all-in during a season where one of our divisional competitors has a run differential of +71 in May really would not be sound.
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Post#512 » by Balki-B » Tue May 31, 2022 12:56 pm

Schad wrote:Chapman's only under control through the end of next year anyway, and we're going to need some cheaper, younger talent if we're going to keep the core together. Plus, going all-in during a season where one of our divisional competitors has a run differential of +71 in May really would not be sound.


Any suggestions as to how the Jays improve their bullpen? Moves on the fringe or just wait for correction and chance Pearson's arrival as a solution?
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Post#513 » by bluerap23 » Tue May 31, 2022 3:19 pm

Bullpen help can be acquired pretty cheaply near the deadline. We would not be giving up a top prospect for a bullpen arm. One thing to offer Groshans and Kirk for an mvp candidate like Ramirez. But I don’t see one of those hitting the market in season this year.


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Post#515 » by Schad » Tue May 31, 2022 6:27 pm

Bullpen help can be acquired affordably, and also relievers are extremely volatile, so you should avoid throwing major resources at them. We're talking about acquiring bullpen help because our closer, who was one of the very best in baseball over the preceding two years, suddenly looks extremely hittable, which should tell you a fair bit about how much you can rely on past results to determine future performance.
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Post#516 » by vaff87 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 12:36 am

As of the current moment, Moreno has thrown out over 50% of base stealers this year (14 of 27).
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Post#517 » by Schad » Fri Jun 3, 2022 6:05 am

Zulueta's step up to high A is going well. Another rather comfortable 5 IP: 5 Ks, no runs, a single and a walk.

At 24, there's probably another promotion in his near future if he has another start or two like that.
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Post#518 » by vaff87 » Fri Jun 3, 2022 10:28 am

Schad wrote:Zulueta's step up to high A is going well. Another rather comfortable 5 IP: 5 Ks, no runs, a single and a walk.

At 24, there's probably another promotion in his near future if he has another start or two like that.


I wonder if Alek Manoah’s immediate success will change their philosophy much? Given how good he’s been, it’s hard to comprehend that he only had 35 professional innings before we called him up.
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Post#520 » by Schad » Sun Jun 5, 2022 1:43 am

Tiedemann was pretty well untouchable yet again: 5 IP, 3 hits, 1 (unearned) run, 6:0 K:BB. His ERA is now 1.41 on the year over 44.2 IP. He's lethal.
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