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Post#5341 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:01 am

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Adrian_05 wrote:Any chance Kay gets called up in september?


I hope so. His first start will be terrible, prompting Ratul, who doesn't watch the games, to reappear and start babbling about firing Shapiro, but then his next 3 starts would be like 2 no hitters and a shutout.


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Post#5342 » by Mad Prophet » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:56 am

dagger wrote:If anyone wants to get a nice look at two prospect pitchers, Zeuch is scheduled to start Saturday night and Pearson Sunday afternoon, both games in Buffalo.


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Post#5343 » by phillipmike » Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:38 am

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Post#5344 » by I_Like_Dirt » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:55 pm

Schad wrote:Orelvis is hitting .285/.353/.528 in the GCL as a 17 year old. It'd be aggressive to move him to Lansing next year, but isn't outside the realm of possibility given that line.


He's stealing the thunder from his teammate Hiraldo who is practically ancient at 18 and putting up a paltry .301/.348/.477. Toss Groshans in there and the stable of under 20 infielders with bat skills beyond their years is looking pretty good.
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Re: 2019 Minor Leagues/Prospect Discussion Thread 

Post#5345 » by vaff87 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:37 pm

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Schad wrote:Orelvis is hitting .285/.353/.528 in the GCL as a 17 year old. It'd be aggressive to move him to Lansing next year, but isn't outside the realm of possibility given that line.


He's stealing the thunder from his teammate Hiraldo who is practically ancient at 18 and putting up a paltry .301/.348/.477. Toss Groshans in there and the stable of under 20 infielders with bat skills beyond their years is looking pretty good.


Hiraldo is actually I’m Bluefield. So he’s a level above.
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Post#5346 » by I_Like_Dirt » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:09 pm

vaff87 wrote:Hiraldo is actually I’m Bluefield. So he’s a level above.



Right... forgot that. Even better, honestly. I can get used to the Jays having a non-stop influx of top notch teenage power hitting infield prospects.
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Post#5347 » by phillipmike » Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:47 pm

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/08/quick-hits-intl-prospects-rosario-defense.html

We’re over ten months away from the opening of the next international signing period on July 2, 2020, though Baseball America’s Ben Badler (subscription required) looks ahead by profiling ten of the most notable prospects in the upcoming class. Dominican outfielder Pedro Pineda could potentially claim the highest bonus of the bunch, as he has been connected to the Athletics for a bonus that could approach $5MM.

The Cubs, Rays, Tigers, Dodgers, Marlins, Nationals, Angels, Blue Jays, and Twins are all unofficially linked to the other nine names on Badler’s list, with several other players also reportedly in line for multi-million dollar bonuses. Of course, the entire signing process as we know it could become moot should Major League Baseball adopt an international talent draft for next year, though nothing has yet been confirmed on that front.


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Post#5348 » by vaff87 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:35 pm

MLB going to an international draft would really suck, imo.
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Post#5349 » by phillipmike » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:58 pm

vaff87 wrote:MLB going to an international draft would really suck, imo.


I agree on one level because it seems a lot of top guys choose the Jays.

But on another levels it seems like the Jays are good at identifying talent and developing so they pool might be larger for them.
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Post#5350 » by phillipmike » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:06 pm

https://www.ocregister.com/2019/08/21/for-blue-jays-minor-leaguers-a-modest-raise-makes-our-lives-a-lot-easier/

Could be a reason why more and more IFAs and draftees sign with the Jays. Its been rumored that the Jays signed many more IFAs than every other team.

They will make more money in the end along with their great development track record. Jays saved money on the MLB team to allocate it to the minors a lure young, cost effective and controlled players. Its a brilliant strategy.
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Post#5351 » by Schad » Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:04 am

It's insane that more teams didn't do it voluntarily earlier. Beyond possibly making the team more desirable to IFAs, you're developing players for an intense mental and physical sport, and half of them are living four-to-an-apartment and eating PB&J two meals a day out of necessity. If you develop even one league-average player every ten years because they actually had an environment that facilitated comfort and exercise and general well-being, you come out miles ahead.
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Post#5352 » by I_Like_Dirt » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:10 pm

Schad wrote:It's insane that more teams didn't do it voluntarily earlier. Beyond possibly making the team more desirable to IFAs, you're developing players for an intense mental and physical sport, and half of them are living four-to-an-apartment and eating PB&J two meals a day out of necessity. If you develop even one league-average player every ten years because they actually had an environment that facilitated comfort and exercise and general well-being, you come out miles ahead.


It's something we've seen in a load of industries, really - cheaping out on training/development and trying to offload that cost onto individual employees or the public somehow. That baseball is probably ahead of most industries and other sports is a rather sad state of affairs. Investing in those minor league teams matters a lot. And even ignoring the impact on the regular team, if your minor league teams are more competitive because guys aren't scrounging for pennies in their spare time, there are potential financial gains to be made there as well; small to be sure, but the investment cost is relatively small, too.
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Post#5353 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:43 pm

Myopic short term thinking in baseball? Sorry, don't believe it.
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Post#5354 » by Schad » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:06 pm

Yeah, it's just that teams figured out ten years ago that spending $15m in the draft was a smart play (before they instituted the capped pool), but then it still took them a decade to figure out that feeding the people you spent $15m on is also good.
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Post#5355 » by phillipmike » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:08 am

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/nate-pearson-blue-jays-2019-minor-league-player-of-the-year/
"It was important to be smart about Nate’s workload increase this season," Blue Jays director of player development Gil Kim said. "So before the season started (pitching co-ordinator) Jeff Ware, along with our medical staff, brainstormed different options that were then presented to Nate.
"He ultimately chose to go with alternating the 5/2 for the first half, and as we assessed strength and fatigue levels throughout the season, we felt that he was in a good position to gradually increase that workload throughout the second half.”
Getting him through the season was only part of the task.
With the help of Driveline, as well as Rapsodo and Edgertronic feedback, Pearson worked tirelessly toward improving his slider, eventually slowing the pitch down a tick while adding a bit more depth. The 6-foot-6, 245-pound righthander also adjusted his delivery last year in the Arizona Fall League, now pitching exclusively out of the stretch, which has helped improve his fastball command and cut down his walk rate, according to Kim.
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Post#5356 » by vaff87 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:43 pm

In a doubleheader today, Orelvis Martinez homered in each game. Also had three walks total, and no strike outs.
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Post#5357 » by Schad » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:07 pm

.255 ISO at age 17 is pretty damned impressive...really hasn't taken long for that raw power to arrive. Yet another guy where the knock was that his swing was seriously busy, but we bet on the bat speed/control.
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Post#5358 » by Lukeem » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:38 am

Outside of Pearson anyone else people think that gets a call up soon and has a chance to be in rotation next year

All those 18 year old arms will be at least another couple years Zeuch (been up and down), manoah (not ready), Kay (not good enough)?
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Post#5359 » by Schad » Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:15 am

I doubt any of our pitching prospects are called up this year. Next year, Pearson and Kay are likely, and there's the possibility of Murphy, Diaz, Zeuch and Perez.
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Post#5360 » by phillipmike » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:18 pm

Zeuch yesterday

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Pearson today:

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Thought calling Pearson up to AAA was a little early but clearly I was wrong.

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