Shohei Otani joins Angels

Lateral Quicks · Post #61 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:07 pm

Well the Jays should be able to put together a very strong and competitive presentation based on those points the agent is asking about. Except for the spring training facilities - for now, anyways.

Still, who knows what they're points of emphasis really are.

HangTime · Post #62 » by **HangTime** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:08 am

We have the metric system.
We don't have Trump.

Do you think he'd be willing to close on some days he DH's? While the team is on defense, he could use the time to warm up.

Also, I don't know if this is possible but,

When Otani Starts we should not pencil him into the DH/P spot right away. We should choose a light hitting DH to start the game and bat him 6th or 7th.

If Otani is struggling to pitch, before the DH spot comes up to bat, we won't lose the DH spot in the order.
If Otani is having a good game, we can let him bat in the DH spot when it comes up.

Post #63 » by **Schad** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:00 am

HangTime wrote:Do you think he'd be willing to close on some days he DH's? While the team is on defense, he could use the time to warm up.

Why would him DHing make him more likely to be a reliever on the days he doesn't start, given that you have a dugout full of starters who aren't doing a damned thing all game?

When Otani Starts we should not pencil him into the DH/P spot right away. We should choose a light hitting DH to start the game and bat him 6th or 7th.

If Otani is struggling to pitch, before the DH spot comes up to bat, we won't lose the DH spot in the order.
If Otani is having a good game, we can let him bat in the DH spot when it comes up.

The lineup card is submitted before the game, and a rule specifies that the DH on the lineup card must bat at least once unless the opposing team makes a pitching change before their first scheduled plate appearance.

Like most oddly specific rules, this one owes to Earl Weaver. After concluding that there was a (tiny, honestly) advantage to not announcing your DH until their turn to bat, Weaver started to insert a starting pitcher in the DH spot on their off-days, lifting them when their turn to back came around. Thus, Jim Palmer (three-time Cy Young winner, career .174/.200/.215 hitter) has three career starts at DH to his name:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BAL/1980-lineups.shtml

polo007 · Post #64 » by **polo007** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:00 am

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So_Fresh · Post #65 » by **So_Fresh** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:09 pm

Please let it be us..

He's not going to cost you much, and he's going to make your team better.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #66 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:14 pm

and this point let him do whatever he wants and help him become the best player he can be. pitch every 5 days, DH and play right field.

polo007 · Post #67 » by **polo007** » Fri Dec 1, 2017 11:36 pm

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Following the deal with Nippon Professional Baseball, Ohtani was put up for bid by the Pacific League's Nippon Ham Fighters for the maximum $20 million posting fee. That opened a window for the 23-year-old to reach agreement on a contract with an MLB team until 11:59 p.m. EST on Dec. 22.

Under MLB's new collective bargaining agreement, Ohtani is limited to a minor league contract subject to a team's signing bonus pool. Texas has the most available at $3,535,000, followed by the New York Yankees ($3.5 million), Minnesota ($3.07 million), Pittsburgh ($2,266,750), Seattle ($1,557,500), Miami ($1.49 million) and the Los Angeles Angels ($1,315,000).

Ohtani was in Los Angeles, a person familiar with his location said. That person spoke on condition of anonymity because no announcement was made.

His agent, CAA Baseball co-head Nez Balelo, sent a memorandum to all teams Nov. 24 asking for "presentations in both Japanese and English via email" allowing the agency to "share it with the Ohtani family so we can proceed with our due diligence."

According to a copy of the memo obtained by The Associated Press, presentations should include:

—"An evaluation of Shohei's talent as a pitcher and/or a hitter;"

—"Player development, medical, training and player performance philosophies and capabilities;"

—"Major league, minor league and spring training facilities;"

—"Resources for Shohei's cultural assimilation;"

—"A detailed plan for integrating Shohei into the organization;"

—"Why the city and franchise are a desirable place to play;"

—"Relevant marketplace characteristics;"

—"And anything else that would help Shohei choose a subset of clubs on which to focus."

polo007 · Post #68 » by **polo007** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 10:17 pm

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Much of the narrative preceding Ohtani to market as the winter’s top free agent has been about his fervent desire to get to continue pitching and hitting. More than financial terms, the deciding factor could be his trust in a team’s sincerity in allowing him to do so.

To show that, the Rays just have to introduce him to McKay, which they may do if the opportunity presents for a phone call, web chat or visit during the 21-day bidding window that opened Friday.

With Ohtani’s future a major daily story in Japan, the Rays’ handling of McKay during his first pro season at short-season Class A Hudson Valley is a popular subject among reporters.

While declining to comment directly on their interest in Ohtani, Rays officials’ have made clear their willingness to be open-minded, patient and committed in handling such special players.

"We’re hopeful (McKay) can do it," Rays GM Erik Neander said. "We want to give him the opportunity to do it because he’s shown he deserves that opportunity and we don’t want to take that away from him prematurely.

"We’re going to continue to work together and learn together. Ideally he continues to do it all the way up to the major leagues and has an incredible impact on our organization."

That framing of the partnership is something the Rays will push to Ohtani.

dagger · Post #69 » by **dagger** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 11:09 pm

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Post #71 » by **JaysRule15** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 11:24 pm

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Seattle?

BramptonYute · Post #72 » by **BramptonYute** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 11:36 pm

These **** better tweet "Only east coast team still in it is the Jays" lol

dagger · Post #73 » by **dagger** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 11:37 pm

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Tanner · Post #74 » by **Tanner** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 11:45 pm

Seattle seems to make the most sense. That would be my pick now that the Yankees are out of it.

BramptonYute · Post #75 » by **BramptonYute** » Mon Dec 4, 2017 12:05 am

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jays confirmed out

MavCarter · Post #76 » by **MavCarter** » Mon Dec 4, 2017 12:10 am

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jays confirmed out

Of course

MavCarter · Post #77 » by **MavCarter** » Mon Dec 4, 2017 12:17 am

Might be the first time i've seen a free agent rule out big market teams lol

polo007 · Post #78 » by **polo007** » Mon Dec 4, 2017 12:23 am

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Post #79 » by **Schad** » Mon Dec 4, 2017 12:35 am

Tanner wrote:Seattle seems to make the most sense. That would be my pick now that the Yankees are out of it.

Yeah, they were the frontrunner in my mind. West Coast, mid-market, fairly competitive present/future, and they have a strong history with Japanese players (and ownership; Nintendo still retains 10% and have been involved with them for 25 years).

The only problem area is DH, given that Nelson Cruz occupies that spot for 2018, but if they're willing to use him in LF, it's available.

dagger · Post #80 » by **dagger** » Mon Dec 4, 2017 1:08 am

Schad wrote:
Tanner wrote:Seattle seems to make the most sense. That would be my pick now that the Yankees are out of it.

Yeah, they were the frontrunner in my mind. West Coast, mid-market, fairly competitive present/future, and they have a strong history with Japanese players (and ownership; Nintendo still retains 10% and have been involved with them for 25 years).

The only problem area is DH, given that Nelson Cruz occupies that spot for 2018, but if they're willing to use him in LF, it's available.

Jays are officially out, if you even assumed that they were in consideration at all.