2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread

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[JN]

Ponce is an interesting signing. Don't know much about him but its interesting.

Any Bassitt or Scherzer talk is over at this point, although they were not overly likely before today anyway. Good luck to both - kudos to Bassitt for always being a pro devoted to our team.

This could be the end of Berrios. I suppose it just comes down to how much we are willing to eat or taking a bad contract in return.

[Randle McMurphy]

We are such massive spenders now under Ed that we’ve reached the point of paying 30M to a journeyman scrub out of the Korean league but some are still worried about whether we paid an extra 10M to Dylan Cease lol

Time to embrace our new role as a spending behemoth of MLB, looks like there’s more to come

[Cyrus]

This looks like similar Rodriguez signing we did a few years ago overseas.

Hoping he'll be 4-5th sp or I guess use him in swing man role.

Looks like low risk gamble signing with potential of good value if things break right.

I guess this though means, definitely out on lmai and other high end pitchers.

Could also mean mad max and bassit out unless Berrios is being traded

[WuTang_CMB]

This looks like similar Rodriguez signing we did a few years ago overseas.

Hoping he'll be 4-5th sp or I guess use him in swing man role.

Looks like low risk gamble signing with potential of good value if things break right.

I guess this though means, definitely out on lmai and other high end pitchers.

Could also mean mad max and bassit out unless Berrios is being traded

thats what i got out of it as well.

-flexibility to be a back end starter or decent long man
if he's decent in any of the roles, its a win
- if he sucks, u just bury the money

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[JN]

This slides Berrios down to #6 it would appear, and we have options after him in Lauer, Estrada, Francis even some of our young pitching prospects could come up for a handful of starts later in the season (Stanifer, Bloss, Tiedeman)

Three options for Berrios.

Keep him (especially if he is content)- Swing man, go 6 man from time to time, long reliever. We will just keep and fill another spot by paying even more. If he's not happy it might force option #2 or #3.

Trade him and eat, and replace him with a FA reliever - We have options behind Berrios who could come in as #5 starters for 10 or less starts if need be. The theory here is eating 40-65% of his contract, throwing in a middle prospect or two, and then using the $8-10m of annual savings to come up with a reliever - perhaps a Tyler Rogers type.

Trade him for a middling or a bad contract -- Guys like Tyler O'Neill (2/34), Baez (2/50), Benintendi (2/40), Yoshida (2/36). I'm having a hard time finding any contractthat makes sense and that includes all the ones above... except for maybe Tyler O'Neill who was terrible last year. But maybe some people out there have ideas within this realm.

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[Cyrus]

This slides Berrios down to #6 it would appear, and we have options after him in Lauer, Estrada, Francis even some of our young pitching prospects could come up for a handful of starts later in the season (Stanifer, Bloss, Tiedeman)

Three options for Berrios.

Keep him (especially if he is content)- Swing man, go 6 man from time to time, long reliever. We will just keep and fill another spot by paying even more. If he's not happy it might force option #2 or #3.

Trade him and eat, and replace him with a FA reliever - We have options behind Berrios who could come in as #5 starters for 10 or less starts if need be. The theory here is eating 40-65% of his contract, throwing in a middle prospect or two, and then using the $8-10m of annual savings to come up with a reliever - perhaps a Tyler Rogers type.

Trade him for a middling or a bad contract -- Guys like Tyler O'Neill (2/34), Baez (2/50), Benintendi (2/40), Yoshida (2/36). I'm having a hard time finding any contractthat makes sense and that includes all the ones above... except for maybe Tyler O'Neill who was terrible last year. But maybe some people out there have ideas within this realm.

I would assume this guy who got lit up mlb is the 6th man, and wasn't "great" in 24 season in kbo. He put it all together last season.

The question is would you rather have unknown for 3 years 30 mill, or broken down Alec Monoah for 2 mil. There is chance you'll need to bury both

[JaysRule25]

For the price it's a no-brainer, even if Ponce is trash as a starter, you shift him to the pen as the long man. But I do like the changes he made to his game in the KBO and I think velo is competitive enough for him to be no. 4-5 guy.

I have a feeling Berrios is getting moved.

[Randle McMurphy]

This slides Berrios down to #6 it would appear, and we have options after him in Lauer, Estrada, Francis even some of our young pitching prospects could come up for a handful of starts later in the season (Stanifer, Bloss, Tiedeman)

Three options for Berrios.

Keep him (especially if he is content)- Swing man, go 6 man from time to time, long reliever. We will just keep and fill another spot by paying even more. If he's not happy it might force option #2 or #3.

Trade him and eat, and replace him with a FA reliever - We have options behind Berrios who could come in as #5 starters for 10 or less starts if need be. The theory here is eating 40-65% of his contract, throwing in a middle prospect or two, and then using the $8-10m of annual savings to come up with a reliever - perhaps a Tyler Rogers type.

Trade him for a middling or a bad contract -- Guys like Tyler O'Neill (2/34), Baez (2/50), Benintendi (2/40), Yoshida (2/36). I'm having a hard time finding any contractthat makes sense and that includes all the ones above... except for maybe Tyler O'Neill who was terrible last year. But maybe some people out there have ideas within this realm.

I would assume this guy who got lit up mlb is the 6th man, and wasn't "great" in 24 season in kbo. He put it all together last season.

The question is would you rather have unknown for 3 years 30 mill, or broken down Alec Monoah for 2 mil. There is chance you'll need to bury both

Manoah absolutely sucks, so not him

[Lateral Quicks]

I could see Ponce sliding into the closer role. Apparently he touches 99 and added an effective splitter in the KBO. The salary seems about right for a closer.

[COY0607]

We are such massive spenders now under Ed that we’ve reached the point of paying 30M to a journeyman scrub out of the Korean league but some are still worried about whether we paid an extra 10M to Dylan Cease lol

Time to embrace our new role as a spending behemoth of MLB, looks like there’s more to come

Dodgers are on a tier of their own. The second tier of spenders is now Mets, Jays, Yankees - in that order. Then tier 3 and below is the rest of the league

[COY0607]

180 IP is no joke, he’s the fifth starter. You don’t give someone $10/year to be #6

Berrios is done with the Jays

Which may also imply money being freed up for another signing

[Randle McMurphy]

FGs projection model had him as a top 5 SP FA left on the market btw. He’s gonna be in the rotation for this team

Where that leaves Berrios is anybody’s guess but I’m sure they’d love to trade him. Doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen though.

[redraptor77]

Announce Bo or Tucker
Flip Jose to Orioles; A’s or Angles for mid tier prospect or RP
Maybe Orioles want Anthony Santander back lol
Sign Diaz
Maybe one more Bat
That’s a heck of an off season

[Mehar]

We are such massive spenders now under Ed that we’ve reached the point of paying 30M to a journeyman scrub out of the Korean league but some are still worried about whether we paid an extra 10M to Dylan Cease lol

Time to embrace our new role as a spending behemoth of MLB, looks like there’s more to come

Dodgers are on a tier of their own. The second tier of spenders is now Mets, Jays, Yankees - in that order. Then tier 3 and below is the rest of the league

Top Tier is still Mets and Dodgers. Dodgers spent 350 million in 2025, followed closely by the Mets at 342 million. Mets are going to spend a similar amount this year, and shelled out a big deal to Devin Williams yesterday.

Yankees spent 304 million and the Phillies spent 292 million in 2025. Jays were fifth in payroll almost 50 million behind New York at 255 million. Not sure you can group the Jays with the Yankees with a 50 million gap in spending, unless the Jays approach 300 million which I doubt.

[Mehar]

For the price it's a no-brainer, even if Ponce is trash as a starter, you shift him to the pen as the long man. But I do like the changes he made to his game in the KBO and I think velo is competitive enough for him to be no. 4-5 guy.

I have a feeling Berrios is getting moved.

I would eat half a chunk of the Berrios contract and move him. Free up more money to target another high leverage reliever. For this price, I like the signing also. Figures to be a 4th or 5th Starter, and reading about the changes he made and his impressive numbers in KBO, it was a good gamble to sign Ponce. It also means we can say Goodbye to Bassitt and Scherzer.

[LoveMyRaps]

180 IP is no joke, he’s the fifth starter. You don’t give someone $10/year to be #6

Berrios is done with the Jays

Which may also imply money being freed up for another signing

KBO is the equivalent of AA/A+ ball. He's not gonna come in and replace Berrios lmao

This is a Yariel-like signing. A guy that can hopefully give you a couple innings of relief per game.