2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread

[Randle McMurphy]

180 IP is no joke, he’s the fifth starter. You don’t give someone $10/year to be #6

Berrios is done with the Jays

Which may also imply money being freed up for another signing

KBO is the equivalent of AA/A+ ball. He's not gonna come in and replace Berrios lmao

This is a Yariel-like signing. A guy that can hopefully give you a couple innings of relief per game.

He was clearly signed as a SP given the term and literally every projection system has him as superior to that scrub Berrios

[Cyrus]

Announce Bo or Tucker
Flip Jose to Orioles; A’s or Angles for mid tier prospect or RP
Maybe Orioles want Anthony Santander back lol
Sign Diaz
Maybe one more Bat
That’s a heck of an off season

LOL thy aren't doing all this, keep your expectations check.

You want them to Sign Bo, get another Bat, sign the best closer, and then eat salary to trade scrubs like Jose or Santander back?

[Cyrus]

180 IP is no joke, he’s the fifth starter. You don’t give someone $10/year to be #6

Berrios is done with the Jays

Which may also imply money being freed up for another signing

KBO is the equivalent of AA/A+ ball. He's not gonna come in and replace Berrios lmao

This is a Yariel-like signing. A guy that can hopefully give you a couple innings of relief per game.

This, they say KBO is equivalent of Double A, and Japan is Triple A, though i guess the recent posting and guys coming over, may change that preception, but the KBO few had great success.

The closest equivalent was recent - Erick Fedde who came over the KBO, did well first year, and then got blown up! This is Rodriguez signing, he did decent as starter in year one then got moved to bullpen!

[redraptor77]

Announce Bo or Tucker
Flip Jose to Orioles; A’s or Angles for mid tier prospect or RP
Maybe Orioles want Anthony Santander back lol
Sign Diaz
Maybe one more Bat
That’s a heck of an off season

LOL thy aren't doing all this, keep your expectations check.

You want them to Sign Bo, get another Bat, sign the best closer, and then eat salary to trade scrubs like Jose or Santander back?

Yes that’s what I would like
I think there could be a market for Jose once free agency dries up.
I concede that we most likely keep Santander
I fully 100 expect a big bat like Bo or Tucker
I also think we add Fairbanks or a another high end reliever

[Michael Bradley]

Projections have Ponce with a 2.2 WAR and 4.08 ERA in ~150 innings next season. I wouldn't take his old numbers seriously. There's an uptick in velo and pitch mix. Let's see how that translates to MLB. I don't think he was signed to be a swing man, but who knows. Maybe Berrios is more injured than they let on, or Bieber. Who knows. Depth is crucial. Even if everyone is healthy this is a more than rational signing. The Jays are going to be a $300M+ spending team, so make sure SP depth is bullet proof.

[Cyrus]

It'll depend if he can re-adjust once the league adjusts to him, i think he'll good decent/good at first... sort of like Francis who was like MLB pitcher of the month year and half ago, when people couldn't figure him out, then last year, the league adjusted, and he got blown up / injuried, its also the reason the jays aren't waiting to see if he can "Figure it out" or readjust

[Michael Bradley]

We are such massive spenders now under Ed that we’ve reached the point of paying 30M to a journeyman scrub out of the Korean league but some are still worried about whether we paid an extra 10M to Dylan Cease lol

Time to embrace our new role as a spending behemoth of MLB, looks like there’s more to come

Looks like they will be spending in the Yankees territory for 2026, which is the smart move. There is a clear window to compete in 2026 so go all in (reasonably) while adding as much impact to the roster as possible. Hopefully the next CBA is just a revised version of this one. The Jays could be massive in the current landscape with Rogers all in.

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[Randle McMurphy]

We are such massive spenders now under Ed that we’ve reached the point of paying 30M to a journeyman scrub out of the Korean league but some are still worried about whether we paid an extra 10M to Dylan Cease lol

Time to embrace our new role as a spending behemoth of MLB, looks like there’s more to come

Looks like they will be spending in the Yankees territory for 2026, which is the smart move. There is a clear window to compete in 2026 so go all in (reasonably) while adding as much impact to the roster as possible. Hopefully the next CBA is just a revised version of this one. The Jays could be massive in the current landscape with Rogers all in.

We better hope the MLBPA wins that fight next year, even if it takes away a season

Can’t give in to the cheapskate owners throughout baseball and give them a cap

[JN]

Announce Bo or Tucker
Flip Jose to Orioles; A’s or Angles for mid tier prospect or RP
Maybe Orioles want Anthony Santander back lol
Sign Diaz
Maybe one more Bat
That’s a heck of an off season

LOL thy aren't doing all this, keep your expectations check.

You want them to Sign Bo, get another Bat, sign the best closer, and then eat salary to trade scrubs like Jose or Santander back?

I think he wants to trade Jose and not eat any salary.

[JN]

Projections have Ponce with a 2.2 WAR and 4.08 ERA in ~150 innings next season. I wouldn't take his old numbers seriously. There's an uptick in velo and pitch mix. Let's see how that translates to MLB. I don't think he was signed to be a swing man, but who knows. Maybe Berrios is more injured than they let on, or Bieber. Who knows. Depth is crucial. Even if everyone is healthy this is a more than rational signing. The Jays are going to be a $300M+ spending team, so make sure SP depth is bullet proof.

Could well be overly speculative, but that Bieber option always had a mysterious element to it that's never been fully resolved as of today. He could have still received a better deal, even with a discount, if "he loves it here"

It always made me wonder if there was an injury concern from the Bieber side.
Hope I'm wrong.

[LoveMyRaps]

180 IP is no joke, he’s the fifth starter. You don’t give someone $10/year to be #6

Berrios is done with the Jays

Which may also imply money being freed up for another signing

KBO is the equivalent of AA/A+ ball. He's not gonna come in and replace Berrios lmao

This is a Yariel-like signing. A guy that can hopefully give you a couple innings of relief per game.

He was clearly signed as a SP given the term and literally every projection system has him as superior to that scrub Berrios

He’ll have a chance to prove himself in spring training. Let’s see how he does. I wouldn’t be mad if we gave him a bullpen role to start the season.

[LoveMyRaps]

180 IP is no joke, he’s the fifth starter. You don’t give someone $10/year to be #6

Berrios is done with the Jays

Which may also imply money being freed up for another signing

KBO is the equivalent of AA/A+ ball. He's not gonna come in and replace Berrios lmao

This is a Yariel-like signing. A guy that can hopefully give you a couple innings of relief per game.

This, they say KBO is equivalent of Double A, and Japan is Triple A, though i guess the recent posting and guys coming over, may change that preception, but the KBO few had great success.

The closest equivalent was recent - Erick Fedde who came over the KBO, did well first year, and then got blown up! This is Rodriguez signing, he did decent as starter in year one then got moved to bullpen!

Tbf he had decent numbers in Japan as well, before breaking out in Korea last year.

He’s still only 31, so hopefully this signing pans out.

But at 10mil AAV, I couldn’t care less if it doesn’t. This is pocket change for Rogers.

[SharoneWright]

180 IP is no joke, he’s the fifth starter. You don’t give someone $10/year to be #6

Berrios is done with the Jays

Which may also imply money being freed up for another signing

KBO is the equivalent of AA/A+ ball. He's not gonna come in and replace Berrios lmao

This is a Yariel-like signing. A guy that can hopefully give you a couple innings of relief per game.

Ponce was better in the KBO than Yesavage was in AA. But the truth is, both sets of statistics are fairly useless. It’s just about judging arm talent. The Jays strongly believed Trey could move up, and they obviously believe Ponce can too. Will be interesting to see.

[Top10alltime]

The Blue Jays have absolutely terrible priorities. You signed Dylan Cease, that's great.

NOW GO FREAKING GET A BIG BAT. "Cody Ponce". You cannot be serious.

Your priority is, a big bat, a closer, or a reliever, you've already got Guasman, Yesavage, Bieber, Berrios, Lauer, and Cease.

We seriously are taking "Cody Ponce", and not looking at Kyle Tucker, or Bo Bichette, firstly.

Get those guys first. Cody Ponce isn't a priority. You have the money, make it work

[Duffman100]

The Blue Jays have absolutely terrible priorities. You signed Dylan Cease, that's great.

NOW GO FREAKING GET A BIG BAT. "Cody Ponce". You cannot be serious.

Your priority is, a big bat, a closer, or a reliever, you've already got Guasman, Yesavage, Bieber, Berrios, Lauer, and Cease.

We seriously are taking "Cody Ponce", and not looking at Kyle Tucker, or Bo Bichette, firstly.

Get those guys first. Cody Ponce isn't a priority. You have the money, make it work

You know they can have separate conversations at the same time right? When they speak with Ponce, they aren't limited by some MLB rule or by some universal constant that they can't then pick up the phone and talk to the other players agents.

The Ponce signing likely has little impact on either of the others. And what history has taught us is that you can't have enough arms.

[COY0607]

180 IP is no joke, he’s the fifth starter. You don’t give someone $10/year to be #6

Berrios is done with the Jays

Which may also imply money being freed up for another signing

KBO is the equivalent of AA/A+ ball. He's not gonna come in and replace Berrios lmao

This is a Yariel-like signing. A guy that can hopefully give you a couple innings of relief per game.

Yariel was a relief pitcher in Japan, he should’ve never started.

Ponce is a starter who pitched a ton of innings last year.

he’s wasn’t signed to be a long man or play in AAA, he’s going to replace one of the starters.

So either they want to limit Ysevage’s innings, maybe even for Gausmann in the early part of the season - same them both for the post season.

Or there’s more health concerns with Bieber

Or he’s signed to make Berrioss expendable

[Top10alltime]

The Blue Jays have absolutely terrible priorities. You signed Dylan Cease, that's great.

NOW GO FREAKING GET A BIG BAT. "Cody Ponce". You cannot be serious.

Your priority is, a big bat, a closer, or a reliever, you've already got Guasman, Yesavage, Bieber, Berrios, Lauer, and Cease.

We seriously are taking "Cody Ponce", and not looking at Kyle Tucker, or Bo Bichette, firstly.

Get those guys first. Cody Ponce isn't a priority. You have the money, make it work

You know they can have separate conversations at the same time right? When they speak with Ponce, they aren't limited by some MLB rule or by some universal constant that they can't then pick up the phone and talk to the other players agents.

The Ponce signing likely has little impact on either of the others. And what history has taught us is that you can't have enough arms.

I think you are failing to understand, what the word priority means.

Cody Ponce shouldn't be one. Bichette and Tucker are supposed to be our main priorities.

[Duffman100]

The Blue Jays have absolutely terrible priorities. You signed Dylan Cease, that's great.

NOW GO FREAKING GET A BIG BAT. "Cody Ponce". You cannot be serious.

Your priority is, a big bat, a closer, or a reliever, you've already got Guasman, Yesavage, Bieber, Berrios, Lauer, and Cease.

We seriously are taking "Cody Ponce", and not looking at Kyle Tucker, or Bo Bichette, firstly.

Get those guys first. Cody Ponce isn't a priority. You have the money, make it work

You know they can have separate conversations at the same time right? When they speak with Ponce, they aren't limited by some MLB rule or by some universal constant that they can't then pick up the phone and talk to the other players agents.

The Ponce signing likely has little impact on either of the others. And what history has taught us is that you can't have enough arms.

I think you are failing to understand, what the word priority means.

Cody Ponce shouldn't be one. Bichette and Tucker are supposed to be our main priorities.

I think you're failing to understand that internal priority != order of which the player is signed.

If Tucker and Bichette are priority number 1 (which they likley are) and Ponce is priority #4.

Ponce says he's ready to sign today while Bichette and Tucker are still taking offers. Do you not sign Ponce? That sounds foolish no?