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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#81 » by PowerPlant1 » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:58 pm

Schad wrote:I can't believe I have to say this again, but:

Kikuchi gets lifted early because he is an accident waiting to happen. He isn't as bad as last year (because he throws strikes now), but he still gives up an alarming amount of hard contact. In close games, being a pitcher than gives up an alarming amount of hard contact is bad, because a one-run lead can turn into a one-run deficit in approximately two pitches, and that is a thing that has happened repeatedly with him.

Meanwhile, our bullpen has been very good. Very good does not mean invincible, however. Very good means that from time to time they will actually give up runs. Last night, they gave up runs. When your offense isn't firing on all cylinders, that's just a thing that will sometimes happen.

I miss the days when this board wasn't filled to the lid with reactionary pissbabies, but alas, those days aren't returning.


You're turning a possibility into a certainty while seemingly ignoring in game performance.

Kikuchi is not at all an accident waiting to happen in a game where he has 8 SO and 5 hits through 5 and a third. Of note, the 5 hits were all singles and some infield hits which implies very little hard contact at all. He is a kind of Jekyll and Hyde kind of pitcher but this game you can argue he was Jekyll/having a good game.

Instead, burning Richards and Swanson early and therefore going eventually to Garcia (who has been a disaster overall this season in high leverage) was the effect of removing Kikuchi early. This was a bad move and deserved all reactions no matter who decides to give a rationale or not.

The only other possibility would have been Schneider going with Mayza instead but for whatever reason, because Garcia was doing better lately, they went with him and it cost the team a run.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#82 » by TOStateofMind » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:58 pm

This team looking cooked in seattle just like last season.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#83 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:04 pm

Chappy really should’ve been on 2nd after they threw to the plate. Too bad. That’s a run.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#84 » by Ranger One » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:07 pm

Schad wrote:I can't believe I have to say this again, but:

Kikuchi gets lifted early because he is an accident waiting to happen. He isn't as bad as last year (because he throws strikes now), but he still gives up an alarming amount of hard contact. In close games, being a pitcher than gives up an alarming amount of hard contact is bad, because a one-run lead can turn into a one-run deficit in approximately two pitches, and that is a thing that has happened repeatedly with him.

Meanwhile, our bullpen has been very good. Very good does not mean invincible, however. Very good means that from time to time they will actually give up runs. Last night, they gave up runs. When your offense isn't firing on all cylinders, that's just a thing that will sometimes happen.

I miss the days when this board wasn't filled to the lid with reactionary pissbabies, but alas, those days aren't returning.


Maybe you should take another break. Clearly you lack the thick skin and emotional fortitude to do this job if standard GT posts trigger you so hard. Its the game thread. Reactionary posts are the norm. Want rational, measured takes? Go elsewhere.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#85 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:10 pm

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#86 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:12 pm

Also, this umpire is horrific. Some of these guys aren't fit to call games at this level.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#87 » by Schad » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:20 pm

Ranger One wrote:Maybe you should take another break. Clearly you lack the thick skin and emotional fortitude to do this job if standard GT posts trigger you so hard. Its the game thread. Reactionary posts are the norm. Want rational, measured takes? Go elsewhere.


There was a time when rational takes were actually a feature of game threads. People who actually knew and cared about baseball used to post here. Now you do. Doesn't strike me as progress, but hey.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#88 » by TOStateofMind » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:21 pm

offense finally

edit: ok this is more like it :lol:
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#89 » by Jago88 » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:23 pm

Wow, was settling in for a long game just waiting for it to end watching them hit frustratingly...did not expect this. Brilliant
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#90 » by Raps in 4 » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:31 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:It's sad that when this team goes down 2-3 runs, I can safely stop watching because I know there is no chance we'll catch up.


I apologize for ever doubting this offence.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#91 » by canz55 » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:34 pm

Guasman threw a tomato there...

This game can go either way. No different from yesterday.

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#92 » by Ranger One » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:34 pm

Schad wrote:
Ranger One wrote:Maybe you should take another break. Clearly you lack the thick skin and emotional fortitude to do this job if standard GT posts trigger you so hard. Its the game thread. Reactionary posts are the norm. Want rational, measured takes? Go elsewhere.


There was a time when rational takes were actually a feature of game threads. People who actually knew and cared about baseball used to post here. Now you do. Doesn't strike me as progress, but hey.


The door is > way. Feel free to see yourself out. Its elitist know-it-alls like you that make this board a graveyard. Instead of welcoming new posters of all types, you actively go out of your way to insult and berate anyone who doesnt meet your exacting standards for baseball knowledge, making it seem like you have to have a minimum 20 years of baseball experience and a PHD in analytics to even post here. You are an absolute disgrace to the Mod team and should be investigated by the leads who actually run this site.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#93 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:36 pm

It sure would be nice to have a fresh bullpen to try to hold a lead for a struggling and possibly still hurt starter. Unfortunately this team has their manager routinely pull starting pitchers who are dominating simply because their numbers on average aren’t very good third time through the order.

Sometimes it is best to actually watch the games and manage on that basis. What an idea.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#94 » by bluerap23 » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:47 pm

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Schad wrote:
Ranger One wrote:Maybe you should take another break. Clearly you lack the thick skin and emotional fortitude to do this job if standard GT posts trigger you so hard. Its the game thread. Reactionary posts are the norm. Want rational, measured takes? Go elsewhere.


There was a time when rational takes were actually a feature of game threads. People who actually knew and cared about baseball used to post here. Now you do. Doesn't strike me as progress, but hey.


The door is > way. Feel free to see yourself out. Its elitist know-it-alls like you that make this board a graveyard. Instead of welcoming new posters of all types, you actively go out of your way to insult and berate anyone who doesnt meet your exacting standards for baseball knowledge, making it seem like you have to have a minimum 20 years of baseball experience and a PHD in analytics to even post here. You are an absolute disgrace to the Mod team and should be investigated by the leads who actually run this site.


Or he could just smack you with a ban for mouthing off. IMHO he is showing some pretty decent restraint.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#95 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:13 pm

That’s the Teo we know. He’ll win you 1. He’ll lose you 1.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#96 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:17 pm

If we sign or trade for Teo again, make him the DH only.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#97 » by Schad » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:17 pm

bluerap23 wrote:Or he could just smack you with a ban for mouthing off. IMHO he is showing some pretty decent restraint.


Doesn't really interest me honestly. I'm just a regular poster with a couple extra buttons that I only use if it's absolutely necessary. My job isn't to make people be better posters, it's to remove things that are truly beyond the pale (ie., the good ol' days where Contender spammed the Raptors board with porn or people posted Nazi stuff on the Current Affairs board); whether this board thrives or dies rests with everyone who contributes here, not with me.

Ranger One has made it abundantly clear that he wants to be a terrible poster, and relishes being a terrible poster, and that's his choice. He'll ultimately get banned because mods on other boards feel that being a terrible poster is ban-worthy, but I'm not really a fan of that sort of moderation.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#98 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:18 pm

This ump has no business calling games at this level if he’s calling that a strike.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#99 » by Schad » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:19 pm

Kevin Keirmeier's strike zone extended from the Pacific Ocean to Missouri apparently.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#100 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:20 pm

Schad wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:Or he could just smack you with a ban for mouthing off. IMHO he is showing some pretty decent restraint.


Doesn't really interest me honestly. I'm just a regular poster with a couple extra buttons that I only use if it's absolutely necessary. My job isn't to make people be better posters, it's to remove things that are truly beyond the pale (ie., the good ol' days where Contender spammed the Raptors board with porn or people posted Nazi stuff on the Current Affairs board); whether this board thrives or dies rests with everyone who contributes here, not with me.

Ranger One has made it abundantly clear that he wants to be a terrible poster, and relishes being a terrible poster, and that's his choice. He'll ultimately get banned because mods on other boards feel that being a terrible poster is ban-worthy, but I'm not really a fan of that sort of moderation.


So what you’re really saying is that you are an “elitist”… heh
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