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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#81 » by Madvillainy2004 » Wed May 15, 2024 8:07 pm

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Madvillainy2004 wrote:Lol can we just blow this up already, could probably get some good pieces for Yusei, Yimi, Romano, and Turner.

They should be trading Vlad and Bo too...


Yeah I'm just done with this era of the Jays lol awful offense and our bullpen sucks besides Yimi.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#82 » by SharoneWright » Wed May 15, 2024 8:16 pm

Guess the O's aren't trading for Romano anymore...
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#83 » by Michael Bradley » Wed May 15, 2024 8:31 pm

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Madvillainy2004 wrote:Lol can we just blow this up already, could probably get some good pieces for Yusei, Yimi, Romano, and Turner.

They should be trading Vlad and Bo too...


They should but they won’t. This season is 2017 and next season will be 2018. They will start the rebuild only when there’s a gun to their heads and they have no choice. Then Shapiro can subtly say “I wanted to rebuild after 2023 but I couldn’t”, and the cycle will continue.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#84 » by Mehar » Wed May 15, 2024 8:36 pm

SharoneWright wrote:Guess the O's aren't trading for Romano anymore...

Good Pitchers like Romano will have bad outings. However, your job is a pitcher is made much harder when you consistently have no margin for error with this pathetic Jays offense. You are not going to win many games scoring only 2 runs against a solid team like Baltimore.

Why this team insists on having Varsho hitting Second in the lineup is beyond me. Another hitless game for Varsho, and now batting .208 for the year when he should be in the bottom of the order. I am not sure if George Springer has a clause in his contract that he has to hit lead off, but I am puzzled why everyone gets moved all over the batting lineup, but he remains the lead off hitter. Just an absolutely disgraceful offense that lets downs its starting and relief pitchers time after time.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#85 » by Madvillainy2004 » Wed May 15, 2024 8:53 pm

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SharoneWright wrote:Guess the O's aren't trading for Romano anymore...

Good Pitchers like Romano will have bad outings. However, your job is a pitcher is made much harder when you consistently have no margin for error with this pathetic Jays offense. You are not going to win many games scoring only 2 runs against a solid team like Baltimore.

Why this team insists on having Varsho hitting Second in the lineup is beyond me. Another hitless game for Varsho, and now batting .208 for the year when he should be in the bottom of the order. I am not sure if George Springer has a clause in his contract that he has to hit lead off, but I am puzzled why everyone gets moved all over the batting lineup, but he remains the lead off hitter. Just an absolutely disgraceful offense that lets downs its starting and relief pitchers time after time.


Varsho has the 4th highest WRC+ on the team right now and leads the team in homeruns lol the only player slugging higher right now is Jansen. He also leads the team in fWAR of there were better options to hit higher we already would be doing that lol
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#86 » by Mehar » Wed May 15, 2024 8:56 pm

Madvillainy2004 wrote:
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SharoneWright wrote:Guess the O's aren't trading for Romano anymore...

Good Pitchers like Romano will have bad outings. However, your job is a pitcher is made much harder when you consistently have no margin for error with this pathetic Jays offense. You are not going to win many games scoring only 2 runs against a solid team like Baltimore.

Why this team insists on having Varsho hitting Second in the lineup is beyond me. Another hitless game for Varsho, and now batting .208 for the year when he should be in the bottom of the order. I am not sure if George Springer has a clause in his contract that he has to hit lead off, but I am puzzled why everyone gets moved all over the batting lineup, but he remains the lead off hitter. Just an absolutely disgraceful offense that lets downs its starting and relief pitchers time after time.


Varsho has the 4th highest WRC+ on the team right now and leads the team in homeruns lol the only player slugging higher right now is Jansen. He also leads the team in fWAR of there were better options to hit higher we already would be doing that lol


Varsho is still hitting .208 for the year, and he was hitting better in the bottom of the order compared to now when he is batting Second. No amount of WRC+ and fWAR stats will justify having a high strikeout .208 hitter like Varsho hitting Second.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#87 » by Hottie McShotty » Wed May 15, 2024 9:07 pm

That was a gut punching loss. Romano has looked shaky all season long. Give the closing reigns to Garcia and trade for another arm.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#88 » by Hottie McShotty » Wed May 15, 2024 9:10 pm

Such a shame. We have a good starting rotation and the rest of the team is poorly constructed. That's all on Atkins. He needs to go.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#89 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed May 15, 2024 9:14 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:That was a gut punching loss. Romano has looked shaky all season long. Give the closing reigns to Garcia and trade for another arm.

Why? If Romano was pitching higher leverage innings than Yimi (like, for example, the 7th/8th inning today when Yimi saved the game), wouldn't that be far worse?
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#90 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed May 15, 2024 9:15 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:
Madvillainy2004 wrote:Lol can we just blow this up already, could probably get some good pieces for Yusei, Yimi, Romano, and Turner.

They should be trading Vlad and Bo too...


They should but they won’t. This season is 2017 and next season will be 2018. They will start the rebuild only when there’s a gun to their heads and they have no choice. Then Shapiro can subtly say “I wanted to rebuild after 2023 but I couldn’t”, and the cycle will continue.

Yes, it's a total disaster with no way out with this FO.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#91 » by Hottie McShotty » Wed May 15, 2024 9:33 pm

9 left on base, 2-13 RISP. This offense cannot add any runs. Make a **** trade you bozo Atkins!
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#92 » by Hottie McShotty » Wed May 15, 2024 9:40 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:That was a gut punching loss. Romano has looked shaky all season long. Give the closing reigns to Garcia and trade for another arm.

Why? If Romano was pitching higher leverage innings than Yimi (like, for example, the 7th/8th inning today when Yimi saved the game), wouldn't that be far worse?


Not really.

Isn't Romano pitching in the ninth with a 1 run game considered high leverage?

If you don't feel confident in Romano pitching in the 7th/8th inning today then go out there any trade for another arm that can pitch in higher leverage innings.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#93 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed May 15, 2024 9:41 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:That was a gut punching loss. Romano has looked shaky all season long. Give the closing reigns to Garcia and trade for another arm.

Why? If Romano was pitching higher leverage innings than Yimi (like, for example, the 7th/8th inning today when Yimi saved the game), wouldn't that be far worse?


Not really.

Isn't Romano pitching in the ninth with a 1 run game considered high leverage?

If you don't feel confident in Romano pitching in the 7th/8th inning today then go out there any trade for another arm that can pitch in higher leverage innings.

What do you mean not really? Do you think Romano is pitching out of the 7th inning with runners on 2nd and 3rd and no out like Yimi did?

There is no save situation at all in the 9th if Yimi isn't being used before that.

Also, although not as good as 2024 Yimi (who is?), Romano is still a fine RP. He's been probably a top 20 RP in baseball since 2020. There's no reason to move him out of where he's comfortable right now because of a slow roller to 2nd and a 345 foot flyball that got over the wall.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#94 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed May 15, 2024 9:43 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:9 left on base, 2-13 RISP. This offense cannot add any runs. Make a **** trade you bozo Atkins!

The only trade he's gonna be making is selling all 2024 FAs over the next few months. This FO isn't going to be adding anybody, nor should they.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#95 » by Hottie McShotty » Wed May 15, 2024 9:45 pm

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Hottie McShotty wrote:9 left on base, 2-13 RISP. This offense cannot add any runs. Make a **** trade you bozo Atkins!

The only trade he's gonna be making is selling all 2024 FAs over the next few months. This FO isn't going to be adding anybody, nor should they.


So be it. It will be his last season with the Blue Jays if it happens.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#96 » by Hottie McShotty » Wed May 15, 2024 9:50 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Why? If Romano was pitching higher leverage innings than Yimi (like, for example, the 7th/8th inning today when Yimi saved the game), wouldn't that be far worse?


Not really.

Isn't Romano pitching in the ninth with a 1 run game considered high leverage?

If you don't feel confident in Romano pitching in the 7th/8th inning today then go out there any trade for another arm that can pitch in higher leverage innings.

What do you mean not really? Do you think Romano is pitching out of the 7th inning with runners on 2nd and 3rd and no out like Yimi did?

There is no save situation at all in the 9th if Yimi isn't being used before that.

Also, although not as good as 2024 Yimi (who is?), Romano is still a fine RP. He's been probably a top 20 RP in baseball since 2020. There's no reason to move him out of where he's comfortable right now because of a slow roller to 2nd and a 345 foot flyball that got over the wall.


:lol: Romano is still a fine RP he says.

Have you seen his stats for this season? Did you watch today's game? He didn't even register an out.

He is declining and he's costing us games. I have no problem making Garcia our closer and moving Romano pitch in less than higher leverage situations if he continues to struggle.
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#97 » by Hottie McShotty » Wed May 15, 2024 9:54 pm

2024 stats for Romano
GP 11
ER 6
WHIP 1.41
ERA 5.06

Yup.. he's a mighty fine RP! :lol:
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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#98 » by DelAbbot » Wed May 15, 2024 10:34 pm

Sooner this boils over, sooner Atkins and Shapiro are fired.

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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#99 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed May 15, 2024 10:40 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:
Not really.

Isn't Romano pitching in the ninth with a 1 run game considered high leverage?

If you don't feel confident in Romano pitching in the 7th/8th inning today then go out there any trade for another arm that can pitch in higher leverage innings.

What do you mean not really? Do you think Romano is pitching out of the 7th inning with runners on 2nd and 3rd and no out like Yimi did?

There is no save situation at all in the 9th if Yimi isn't being used before that.

Also, although not as good as 2024 Yimi (who is?), Romano is still a fine RP. He's been probably a top 20 RP in baseball since 2020. There's no reason to move him out of where he's comfortable right now because of a slow roller to 2nd and a 345 foot flyball that got over the wall.


:lol: Romano is still a fine RP he says.

Have you seen his stats for this season? Did you watch today's game? He didn't even register an out.

He is declining and he's costing us games. I have no problem making Garcia our closer and moving Romano pitch in less than higher leverage situations if he continues to struggle.

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Re: Jays (18-22) @ Orioles (26-13) May 13- 15 

Post#100 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed May 15, 2024 10:42 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:2024 stats for Romano before today's game.
GP 11
ER 6
WHIP 1.41
ERA 5.06

Yup.. he's a mighty fine RP! :lol:

He had a 3.38 ERA before today's game. You're unknowingly posting his stats after today's game (which, again, consisted of a slow hit GB to 2nd base and a 345 foot flyball that wouldn't have been a HR in the majority of parks in MLB).

Yes, he's a fine RP.
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