Im starting to get worried about Snider

[darth_federer]

.150 BA and hes struggling. Hes batting 9th in the order and it doesnt look like hes improved. They will send him back to the minors and he ll mash it and come back up here and struggle again.

AA is confident he will become a great player, but hes starting to look Hinske esque....

[raps4life~]

In other news, Alex Rodriguez is starting to look like Johnny Mac, he has 0 HR and is hitting .200 this season.

[Schad]

Snider is 22...he still has most of his baby teeth. He's struggling to make contact, but he's showing good patience and has driven a couple balls. Give him at least two more weeks before getting too worried.

[Randle McMurphy]

.150 BA and hes struggling. Hes batting 9th in the order and it doesnt look like hes improved. They will send him back to the minors and he ll mash it and come back up here and struggle again.

AA is confident he will become a great player, but hes starting to look Hinske esque....

You really need some perspective. He's played 6 games in his age 22 season.

[Randle McMurphy]

Snider is 22...he still has most of his baby teeth. He's struggling to make contact, but he's showing good patience and has driven a couple balls. Give him at least two more weeks before getting too worried.

I'll give him two years if it takes that long (and it did take Lind that long). This organization has nothing but time.

[Avenger]

Snider is just a baby in terms of baseball age, this is third shot at the big leagues and still i think he's something like the 2nd or 3rd youngest position player in the AL. There is nothing to worry about with him, players like him who did what he did in the minors at his age rarely turn into busts

[Lateral Quicks]

There is no reason to send him to the minors. He's already proved himself there, and the Jays are in a development phase right now. They can afford to be patient with Snider.

The only way he's sent down is if he's batting under .200 come June 1, and even then it probably wouldn't happen. Who would replace him in the outfield at this point?

I would be extremely disappointed with AA if he gives up on the development track he's taken by sending Snider down and signing a stopgap outfielder.

[Relentless88]

Yeah, Snider's young, and the team is rebuilding, no reason to send him down. Also who would replace him in the lineup?

[kavan]

Overbay sucks? Why not waive him?

He will need a few hot streaks to get rolling but what we dont have in his bat we get on defense. He has made some big plays and has one hell of an arm. I think we are not bad offensively as I thought we would be but I never thought Gonzales and Vernon would have hit so many HR's.


Snider has no pressure but to have a few big hits and his run production will come its nice to have his bat down there if he makes contact starts a rally or can knock are 5-6-7-8 guys in and give the top of the line up another chance its a bonus.

[tsherkin]

Snider still seems to have trouble catching up to fastballs but his approach at the plate seems to have improved; if he keeps that up and can generate a little more bat speed (or maybe just correct the timing of his swing?, he'll eventually be OK.

I don't think anyone is realistically projecting him as a .300 hitter or anything. He projects as more of a classic power hitter, maybe sort of Joe Carter-ish... .260 seems about right in his hey-day, no? He's young, and we aren't going to be very good for a while, so we can afford the time.

[youngLion]

He's had 20 ABs. This is very premature.

I don't think anyone is realistically projecting him as a .300 hitter or anything. He projects as more of a classic power hitter, maybe sort of Joe Carter-ish... .260 seems about right in his hey-day, no?

Whoa that's really pessimistic. A guy who hits .260 at his best isn't that great despite the power numbers. As one of the top prospects in baseball I think most people are projecting Snider to be better than Carter, but even he hit .300 once or twice. For what it's worth, Blair has said that he believes that Snider looks like a better contact hitter than originally predicted.

[raps4life~]

Actually hitting .260 won't matter if power number are great. What do you guys see as his ceiling in terms of HR? Will he ever be a 35+ HR guy?

[Avenger]

Whoa that's really pessimistic. A guy who hits .260 at his best isn't that great despite the power numbers. As one of the top prospects in baseball I think most people are projecting Snider to be better than Carter, but even he hit .300 once or twice. For what it's worth, Blair has said that he believes that Snider looks like a better contact hitter than originally predicted.

No its not, there are plenty of great hitters who hit .260 or less, batting average is completely irrelevant as long as he gets on base and hits homeruns. Look at guys like Adam Dunn who has a career BA of .249 but he's had a lot of MVP type offensive seasons because he gets on base and has elite power, same story with Carlos Pena(career BA .247) although he's little inconsistent from year to year.

[raps4life~]

Whoa that's really pessimistic. A guy who hits .260 at his best isn't that great despite the power numbers. As one of the top prospects in baseball I think most people are projecting Snider to be better than Carter, but even he hit .300 once or twice. For what it's worth, Blair has said that he believes that Snider looks like a better contact hitter than originally predicted.

No its not, there are plenty of great hitters who hit .260 or less, batting average is irrelevant as long as he gets on base and hits homeruns. Look at guys like Adam Dunn who has a career BA of .249 but he's had a lot of MVP type offensive seasons because he gets on base and has elite power.

haha, Dunn was exactly who I was thinking of as well.

[youngLion]

Well look Adam Dunn hits 40 homers every single year. If Snider could do that no one would complain, but Dunn is a pretty unique player because he's a 6'6 tank and has such a great eye. My understanding of Snider was that he's projected to be more of an all around hitter.

[darth_federer]

Well Im also basing this on his last year and the preseason/season so far. Is it a little premature? Sure, but hes only improved slightly against lefties, and I cant help but feel like hes being wasted down in the 9th spot. Hes never going to be a great fielder, so I would rather get him up the order and give him good pitches to hit.

[Kaizen]

I am very worried about Snider. I have my doubts that he will turn it around.

[tsherkin]

Whoa that's really pessimistic. A guy who hits .260 at his best isn't that great despite the power numbers. As one of the top prospects in baseball I think most people are projecting Snider to be better than Carter, but even he hit .300 once or twice. For what it's worth, Blair has said that he believes that Snider looks like a better contact hitter than originally predicted.

If Snider ends up as good as Carter, I will be THRILLED TO BITS...

Joe Carter was a career .259 hitter who had a .771 OPS who was good for around 30 2B, 30 HR, 30-50 BB and 110 RBI while he was with us. If we could get that out of Snider, I'd blow an O ring and drop a lung. 5-time All-Star, 2-time Silver Slugger, finished 3rd and 5th in the MVP vote during our big years.

In the modern era, Joe's OBP and OPS aren't exactly awesome; he was a career 105 OPS+ player, which is good, but nothing to write home about. In his first four years with the Jays, Carter was at 124, 119, 112 and 113 OPS+, which is noticeably better. He dropped off hard after that, but that's because he wasn't on 'roids and was entering his mid-30s. He was a career 112 OPS+ player with the Indians when he was there, which is more reflective of his true talent.

So yeah, I'd be tjhrilled if the Jays got that out of Snider.

[YogiStewart]

if you worry about Snider, you should be celebrating that we are in first and will definitely win the pennant.

[CapeCrusader]

Too young to get worried about. Like somebody else said about Lind, he was bouncing back in forth from the minors to the jays before finding his role.