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Given we're going through a rebuild I'd like to hear from people what they think the Jays roster will look like 3-5 years from now given who's on our current roster, who we have in the minor leagues and the recent draft picks. Also take into account contract status and if we'd re sign any players currently on the MLB roster.

I'm just curious what players we have right now that people see as long term assets that will help us eventually become a contender. Please leave any position blank that you don't think we can fill from our current assets.

C
1B
2B
SS
3B
RF
LF
CF
DH

SP
SP
SP
SP
SP

Closer
RPs

C - Travis D 'arnaud
1B - Brett Wallace
2B - Aaron Hill
SS - Hech
3B - Someone aquired thru trade (Ill say Marcum is eventually dealt)
RF - Travis Snider
LF - No idea
CF - Vernon Wells
DH - Adam Lind

SP - Ricky Romero
SP - Brett Cecil
SP - Kyle Drabek
SP - Brendan Morrow
SP - Chad Jenkins

Closer - Zach Stewart
RPs

C
1B - Wallace
2B - Hill
SS -
3B -

RF - Snider
CF - Wells
LF -

DH - Lind

SP - Marcum
SP - Romero
SP - Morrow
SP - Cecil
SP - Drabek

Closer -

With at least a couple of the blanks I would figure we would trade some pitching since were pretty deep in pitching. Maybe Bautista will net us something after the season he's having right now.

I'm winging it here so don't come at me with your stupid "reason" and stuff

C - Travis D 'arnaud .301 BA/.350 OBP, 16 HR, awesome D and terrifying arm.
1B - Brett Wallace .313/.388, 27 HR, 87 BB, passable D, 807924 jokes about his thighs
2B - Aaron Hill .283/.329, 23 HR, some range lost but still turns a strong DP
SS - Hech - Leadoff hitter with .289/.341, 8 HR, 17 triples, 34 SB, and Rey Ordonez 2.0 at SS
3B - Chase Utley - The Phils let him go after his deal expires and he moves to 3B. Delivers 85% of the usual Chase Utley greatness, which is still damn good.
LF - Travis Snider - .287/.374, 37 HR, 34 doubles, 68 BB, 5 SB, and decent D in left. All-Star and Silver Slugger.
RF - Vernon Wells - Still doing his thing after being convinced to move to RF. .281/.328/, 24 HR, slightly above avg D
CF - Cameron Maybin - The Marlins give up on the kid after 2011 for Chad Jenkins and he blossoms in TO with .287/.348, 15 HR, 20 SB, and great D.
DH - Adam Lind - Settles into a nice average of .294/.374, 31 HR, a **** ton of RBIs batting cleanup after Snider

Lineup:
Hech
Utley
Snider
Lind
Wallace
Wells
Hill
D'Arnaud
Maybin

SP - Ricky Romero - 220 IP, 190 K, 3.36 ERA with help from the great D
SP - Brett Cecil - 215 IP, 175 K, 3.41
SP - Kyle Drabek - 215 IP, 180 K, 3.53 ERA
SP - Brandan Morrow - 190 IP, 190 K, 4.19 ERA
SP - Henderson Alvarez - 185, 155 K, 3.73 ERA

Closer - Who cares
RPs - Boring

i'm loving your lineup hoopstar... heres mine:

justin jackson
john tolisano
mcdade
lubanski
ahrens
cooper
thames
jon talley
loewan

worst starting lineup i've ever posted

MY real lineup here we go:

ss Hech 11 homeruns 25 doubles 8 triples 286 avg
c D'arnaud 17 homeruns 91 rbis 303 avg
1B wallace 27hrs 90 rbis 285 avg 115 k's 67 walks
LF Snider 34hrs 111 rbis 290 avg
RF Wells 24hrs 93 rbis 299 avg
DH lind 31hrs 105 rbis 311 avg
3B Kevin Ahrens 20hrs 79 rbis 290 avg i don't know why but i think he can turn things around.
2B Hill 23hrs 85 rbis improves his walks and 360 on base percentage
CF someone we get through a trade.

starting pitching
romero 230IP 201 k's 2.96
Drabek 197IP 170k's alot of walks though 3.24
cecil 210IP 187 k's 3.51
Morrow 222 210k's 3.10
Chad jenkins/deck mcguire don't know what to expect

Bullpen who ever doesn't make it as an starter stewart, alavrez etc.
closer sign a free agent or something...

bench:
key guy on the bench justing jackson and john tolisano

I'm betting that we'll move Lind and Hill within the next three years, so considering that:

C - D'Arnaud
1B - Wallace
2B - no idea...Pastornicky? Emaus?
3B - no idea
SS - Hech
LF - Thames
CF - who knows
RF - Wells
DH - Snider

Rotation: Romero, Alvarez, Cecil, Zip, Jenkins. Closer: Morrow.

C- Travis D'Arnaud
1B- Brett Wallace
2B- Aaron Hill
3B- Mark Sobolewski
SS- Hech
LF- Eric Thames
CF- Vernon Wells
RF- Travis Snider
DH- Adam Lind

Bench- Brad Emaus, Brian Jeroloman, Jarrett Hoffpauir and Moises Sierra

SP- Kyle Drabek
SP- Ricky Romero
SP- Chad Jenkins
SP- Brett Cecil
SP- Brandon Morrow/Deck McGuire/Henderson Alvarez

Closer- Jonathon Papelbon (going out on a limb here, Jays will give him the nuts and force the Red Sox to let him go)
Setup- Zach Stewart
7th inning guy- Josh Roenicke
Lefty- Tiny Tim Collins
MRP- Danny Farquhar
MRP- Shawn Camp
LHRP- David Purcey

In the bating order
3 years/ 5 years

SS- Hech/Hech
2B- Hill/ Pastornicky
DH- Lind/Lind
CF- Wells/ RF- Snider
LF- Snider/ 1B- Wallace
1B-Wallace/ C- D'arnaud
C-D'arnaud/ 3B-???
3B-??/ CF- Marisnick
RF- Sierra/RF- Sierra

SP1 Romero/Alvarez
SP2 Cecil/Romero
SP3 Zep/Drabek
SP4 Drabek/ Cecil
SP5 Morrow/ Jenkins

Set Up
LH- Collins/same
RH- Stewart /same
Closer- Farquhar /same
RP -Magnuson/Janssen/Zep /McGuire
Bench
C Arencibia/Jimenez
1B Dopirak/McDade
INF Jackson/ Jackson
OF Thames/ Hobson
25 man roster bench OF and RF im very unsure of but i think the team is already going to be very good offensively and I like the extra D you get with Sierra's arm

Schadenfreude wrote:I'm betting that we'll move Lind and Hill within the next three years,

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The worst part, for me, of new GM's in any sport is they want to 'do it' with their own guys, so inevitably they move out some of the key players the prior GM had brought in. All of JP's guys may be on the block at some point in the next few years. I just hope he gets proper value back from the moves he makes. So far the Halliday trade looks pretty decent. No giveaways like the Carpenter fiasco!

Personally I don't see the reasoning for trading Lind and Hill....whether or not they brake out of the slump they will come back better next season. Plus they're still young and have a chance of doing better.

It was the same with Wells...I'll admit I was one of the people that wanted him out after back to back to back crappy seasons after Delgado left. But now that hes playing like the Wells we signed to the big contract...not a word about trading him.

CapeCrusader wrote:It was the same with Wells...I'll admit I was one of the people that wanted him out after back to back to back crappy seasons after Delgado left. But now that hes playing like the Wells we signed to the big contract...not a word about trading him.

I'd trade Wells for a bag of balls if a major league team was willing to take him and his full contract.

Randle McMurphy wrote:

CapeCrusader wrote:It was the same with Wells...I'll admit I was one of the people that wanted him out after back to back to back crappy seasons after Delgado left. But now that hes playing like the Wells we signed to the big contract...not a word about trading him.

I'd trade Wells for a bag of balls if a major league team was willing to take him and his full contract.

I'd let them keep their bag and their balls.

Even if he hits 40 HR, wins the Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, MVP, and the Cy this year I'd still give him away and probably throw in a couple bats and maybe a cap or two if that got the job done.