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Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2010 7:04 pm
by Kaizen
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/13606720/power-rankings-halfway-awards-to-deserving-and-notsomuch?tag=coverlist_active;coverlist_footer

So let's blast into this week's Power Rankings with a turbo-intro. Your no-explanation, so-far MVPs: Miguel Cabrera and Joey Votto. Your Cy Youngs: Cliff Lee and Josh Johnson. Your Rookies of the Year: Brennan Boesch and Jason Heyward. Your Managers of the Year: Terry Francona and Bobby Cox. Your Execs of the Year: Jon Daniels and Frank Wren.

But wait ... there's more! Your Least Valuable Players: Chone Figgins and Aaron Rowand. Your Anti-Cys: Rich Harden and Carlos Zambrano. Your McClendons (worst manager): Cito Gaston and Bruce Bochy. Your Dayton-Wades (worst executive): Dayton Moore and Ed Wade.


How could anyone list Gaston as the worst manager in the AL? Does anyone else think this is ridiculous?

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2010 7:13 pm
by The_Hater
The team grossly overachieved while getting next to nothing from their top 2 returning hitters. I'm at a loss as to what exactly he could be basing this on?

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2010 7:38 pm
by -MetA4-
Not really that ridiculous. Gaston employs little to no strategy. I mean; this is a guy who has started John McDonald in LF...not only can McDonald not hit, but he cant even field LF worth ****.

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2010 8:50 pm
by Randle McMurphy
He's one of the worst tactical managers that I've ever seen at the ML level. Anybody with even the slightest familiarity with him knows about that weakness, so it's not surprising to me.

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:39 am
by SharoneWright
He's turrible.

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2010 4:08 am
by Hoopstarr
SharoneWright wrote:He's turrible.


See, even Charles Barkley thinks so.

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2010 5:27 pm
by The_Hater
Randle McMurphy wrote:He's one of the worst tactical managers that I've ever seen at the ML level. Anybody with even the slightest familiarity with him knows about that weakness, so it's not surprising to me.


He is a terrible tacitcal manager, always has been. It drove me crazy in the early 90's but his teams have always seemed to overachieve because of that. They play loose, they don't worry about mistakes. Sparky Anderson used to manage with a similar style and he was revered.

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Wed Jul 7, 2010 7:09 pm
by Kaizen
http://mlb-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/23055761

AL manager Joe Torre and NL manager Bob Brenly did what All-Star managers do, rotating players into the game at a steady clip. It wasn't always that way; managers used to manage the game as they would a normal game, with some liberal substitutions late in the game as big-name players got token appearances.

The turning point came in the 1993 All-Star Game at Camden Yards. Blue Jays manager Gaston, who had already drawn criticism for loading the AL team with a whopping seven Toronto players, didn't use Baltimore pitcher Mike Mussina in the game. The crowd booed him lustily -- not only that night but in future visits to Camden.

"Who needs the grief?" was the approach of future All-Star skippers, who started planning the game so that as many players as possible were used. Brenly was simply following what had become customary when he emptied his bench and his bullpen. That became a problem when the game went into the 10th inning, and then the 11th.


This is the second article in two days that had a negative reference to Gaston. CBS must not like him.

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 1:54 pm
by The_Hater
CZAR85 wrote:http://mlb-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/23055761

AL manager Joe Torre and NL manager Bob Brenly did what All-Star managers do, rotating players into the game at a steady clip. It wasn't always that way; managers used to manage the game as they would a normal game, with some liberal substitutions late in the game as big-name players got token appearances.

The turning point came in the 1993 All-Star Game at Camden Yards. Blue Jays manager Gaston, who had already drawn criticism for loading the AL team with a whopping seven Toronto players, didn't use Baltimore pitcher Mike Mussina in the game. The crowd booed him lustily -- not only that night but in future visits to Camden.

"Who needs the grief?" was the approach of future All-Star skippers, who started planning the game so that as many players as possible were used. Brenly was simply following what had become customary when he emptied his bench and his bullpen. That became a problem when the game went into the 10th inning, and then the 11th.


This is the second article in two days that had a negative reference to Gaston. CBS must not like him.


I forgot about that incident. Granted, how stupid is a manager not to use a player from the home team?

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2010 5:19 pm
by Kaizen
There have been reports for a long time that the O's did not want Mussina to pitch in the game.

Re: Gaston worst manager?

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 7:34 pm
by kwamebargnani
No sane man would have Jose Molina as our DH versus Jon Lester, but that's what's happening today. Cito is just a stubborn old idiot.