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Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:22 pm
by Schad
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/y ... f-lee.html


Heh, so much for the Yanks' superrotation.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:23 pm
by Avenger
that's a great deal for the Mariners, they got more for half a season of Lee than we got for a full season of Halladay(and a 4 year extension).

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:27 pm
by -MetA4-
Avenger wrote:that's a great deal for the Mariners, they got more for half a season of Lee than we got for a full season of Halladay(and a 4 year extension).


Given the names being thrown around; I disagree.

The names right now are: Smoak + Beavan + Lawson + Lueke

I'd take Smoak over anyone we got; but we landed 3 Top 50 prospects. Lawson and Lueke dont come anywhere near close to d'Arnaud who was the #3 player in our package. Beavan is starting to show some worth, but he's a #3 type starter if he pans out.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:30 pm
by kwamebargnani
Heck of a deal for the Mariners. Jack Z finally does something positive.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:37 pm
by Schad
Heh, setting aside the Halladay return, turning Aumont, Gillies and Ramirez (all three having terrible seasons) into Smoak and Beaven + meh is a great flip.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:42 pm
by -MetA4-
Schadenfreude wrote:Heh, setting aside the Halladay return, turning Aumont, Gillies and Ramirez (all three having terrible seasons) into Smoak and Beaven + meh is a great flip.


Its a great deal for the Mariners. Lueke is old (turning 26 in Dec) but he throws mid 90's consistently and could be a pretty good bullpen arm. I'm just arguing that its not better than what we got. We got 3 legit top prospects; Seattle got a very good prospect, a good prospect, and two filler prospects.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:50 pm
by Hoopstarr
In almost every case, I'd rather take one guy with superstar potential (Smoak) over a package of good prospects, but I'm pretty confident in our haul.

kwamebargnani wrote:Heck of a deal for the Mariners. Jack Z finally does something positive.


Finally?

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:54 pm
by Avenger
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Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:56 pm
by Avenger
-MetA4- wrote:
Avenger wrote:that's a great deal for the Mariners, they got more for half a season of Lee than we got for a full season of Halladay(and a 4 year extension).


Given the names being thrown around; I disagree.

The names right now are: Smoak + Beavan + Lawson + Lueke

I'd take Smoak over anyone we got; but we landed 3 Top 50 prospects. Lawson and Lueke dont come anywhere near close to d'Arnaud who was the #3 player in our package. Beavan is starting to show some worth, but he's a #3 type starter if he pans out.

I guess i like Smoak's potential much more compared to Wallace (average 1st basemen), Drabek(3rd starter), D'Arnaud(highest upside of the three but risky).

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2010 10:00 pm
by -MetA4-
Avenger wrote:I guess i like Smoak's potential much more compared to Wallace (average 1st basemen), Drabek(3rd starter), D'Arnaud(highest upside of the three but risky).


Wallace an average first baseman? Sure, the Mariners deal looks great when you take the absolute worst of possible scenarios.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:43 am
by Champ Kind
Whoa,

Smoak is going to be a beast, I don't think the Mariners were quite as ready as they thought they were, good deal for them, Smoak is going to be a big part of what they do moving forward.

Really thought Lee was going to the Yankees with them apparently offering Jesus Montero, I kind of wish that trade went down, so the Jays wouldn't have to deal with this Montero kid when we get things really going in a couple years. By the time we should be good to go, Lee would be on his way out of his prime. Damn.......

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:25 am
by CapeCrusader
Good trade for Mariners. Don't even know why they had Lee in the first place.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:32 am
by MGD24
I'm just glad he didn't end up in a Yankee uniform.

Unfortunately for Texas I heard Lee will sign with the Heat when he becomes a FA though

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:00 am
by Geddy
I wonder if the Yankees would have any good prospects to give up if by chance Marcum was traded to them.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:44 am
by CB4_Toronto_Raptors
Smoak will be legit I LOVE his bat. He's got star potential. Good move for the M's but also a nice pickup for Texas as they are looking to get into the playoffs.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:45 pm
by OldNo7
MGD24 wrote:I'm just glad he didn't end up in a Yankee uniform.

Unfortunately for Texas I heard Lee will sign with the Heat when he becomes a FA though


Amazing. I actually laughed out loud.

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:56 pm
by SargentBargs101
so if we kept halladay we could have a gotten a return like this?? a year no one wanted to give up prospects but now they are.... i still think our package was much better...

Re: Cliff Lee traded to Rangers for Smoak, three others

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:51 pm
by Randle McMurphy
SargentBargs101 wrote:i still think our package was much better...

It is.