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Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:54 pm
by LittleOzzy
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There’s a kind of coiled grace in the way Kyle Drabek saunters toward the visitors’ bullpen at Hadlock Field, out there in the left-field shadow of a mini Green Monster.

It’s late afternoon under a still-hot sun, the time for pre-game stretching, a bit of jogging, the tossing of balls. Drabek puts his glove on the top of the bullpen fence, walks through the little gate, and heads straight to the garden hose lying directly opposite, the one used to douse a dusty mound.

This is not what Drabek has in mind.

He’s soon wielding the hose, trying to soak a teammate.

A big, impish grin flashes across Drabek’s face, the same look that had overtaken him a few minutes earlier when the subject of batting had come up.

Drabek might be one of the top pitching prospects for the Toronto Blue Jays, but he loves slugging almost as much. There’s reason, on this day, to have that top of mind.

When the opposing team is held scoreless, a lot of minor-league clubs reward the pitchers by letting them take batting practice in the ensuing days, something they normally wouldn’t get to do.

As the starting pitcher a few days earlier, Drabek had done more than simply work in a scoreless game. He’d pitched a no-hitter, the first time any member of the Double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats had ever done that through a full nine innings.

When it was over, Drabek’s teammates had mobbed him so eagerly he ended up with a bloody nose.

But still, no batting practice.


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Re: Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:34 pm
by springz
expecting good things, hopefully he doesn't disappoint

Re: Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:02 pm
by Randle McMurphy
I wish people would avoid comparisons to Roy Halladay with Drabek. He looks like he could be a good pitcher in the majors, but if you're expecting Drabek to be the ace of this team in the future, you might be disappointed.

Re: Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:07 pm
by Yosemite Dan
Randle McMurphy wrote:I wish people would avoid comparisons to Roy Halladay with Drabek. He looks like he could be a good pitcher in the majors, but if you're expecting Drabek to be the ace of this team in the future, you might be disappointed.


Actually I couldn't disagree more. The guy has a full arsenal of pitches and seems to have a great work ethic and intensity on the mound. That's 2 prerequisites for any great pitcher not to mention the good pedigree. The reason he's not burning up in the minor leagues is because pitchers with a few different pitches will work on that rather than trying to strike everybody out. I predict big things for this guy and being a future ace on a staff is a very realistic expectation. The Phillies were not thrilled about giving this guy up. Not every young pitcher is gonna start his career like Stephen Strasberg.

Halliday didn't exactly have great start to his career, he did almost toss an early no hitter but was sent back to the minors soon after to further develop his vast array of pitches because it takes time.

Re: Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:44 pm
by Hoopstarr
What is this full arsenal of pitches that Drabek has? Last I heard, he's still only a fastball-curve guy and I haven't heard anything about his changeup's development. Halladay had a changeup, curve and a mid 90s fastball early in his minor league career and at 22 (Drabek's age) he was starting for the big club. None of this is to take anything away from Drabek, but I agree with RM, you'll be disappointed if you're expecting Doc 2.0.

Re: Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:04 pm
by -MetA4-
Halladay sucks.

Re: Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:43 am
by Randle McMurphy
Yosemite Dan wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:I wish people would avoid comparisons to Roy Halladay with Drabek. He looks like he could be a good pitcher in the majors, but if you're expecting Drabek to be the ace of this team in the future, you might be disappointed.


Actually I couldn't disagree more. The guy has a full arsenal of pitches and seems to have a great work ethic and intensity on the mound. That's 2 prerequisites for any great pitcher not to mention the good pedigree. The reason he's not burning up in the minor leagues is because pitchers with a few different pitches will work on that rather than trying to strike everybody out. I predict big things for this guy and being a future ace on a staff is a very realistic expectation. The Phillies were not thrilled about giving this guy up. Not every young pitcher is gonna start his career like Stephen Strasberg.

You and I must have a completely different idea of what realistic expectations are, then.

Re: Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:15 pm
by Peteros
Randle McMurphy wrote:I wish people would avoid comparisons to Roy Halladay with Drabek. He looks like he could be a good pitcher in the majors, but if you're expecting Drabek to be the ace of this team in the future, you might be disappointed.


Did you think Halladay was going to turn out the way he did when he was in the minors and struggled early in his Major League career??

Randle are you able to look into the future? How can you say you might be disappointed? Do you know what's going to be of Drabek 5 years from now?

Re: Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:11 pm
by Randle McMurphy
Did you think Halladay was going to turn out the way he did when he was in the minors and struggled early in his Major League career??

Nobody did. What's your point?

Randle are you able to look into the future? How can you say you might be disappointed? Do you know what's going to be of Drabek 5 years from now?

I don't have to be able to look into the future to know that Kyle Drabek likely won't turn into the best pitcher in baseball over the next 10 years (or in other words, Roy Halladay). If that's what people are expecting from the kid ("Doc Halladay's heir"), then yes, those people will probably be in for a disappointment. Why is that a controversial or divisive remark? It's not like I'm knocking Drabek or saying he won't be a good major leaguer. I'm just saying that Roy Halladays are incredible rarities.

Re: Meet Doc Halladay

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:25 pm
by Michael Bradley
I think Drabek's upside is more of a #2-3 starter, but I agree with Randle, saying he is the next Halladay or even a future ace is very premature at this point. A pitcher of Roy's calibre comes along once in a generation. Holding any prospect to that standard, outside of maybe Strasburg, is a recipe for disappointment.

Let's just sit back and wait to see what he does if/when he reaches the Majors. A lot can happen, good and bad, with young pitchers.