OT:Haren to the angels

SargentBargs101 · Post #1 » by **SargentBargs101** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:30 pm

Joe saunders is the main piece to the package.. lol

SargentBargs101 · Post #2 » by **SargentBargs101** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:32 pm

They got screwed big time. btw mlbtraderumors.com

-MetA4- · Post #3 » by **-MetA4-** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:37 pm

The Angels have acquired Dan Haren from Arizona in exchange for Joe Saunders, Patrick Corbin, Rafael Rodriguez, and a player to be named later, according to Andrew Baggarly of the Mercury News (via Twitter).

The player to be named later is a top prospect, a source tells Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic (via Twitter).

aligator · Post #4 » by **aligator** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:46 pm

It had better be a top prospect or Arizona needs a new GM.

Pop Rozay · Post #5 » by **Pop Rozay** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:54 pm

lol i remember when joe saunders was one of the pieces for halladay. good thing we dodged that bullet, he sucks ass. AZ iunno why they would do this, who are the 2 prospects? how are they doing in the minors? im happy the yanks dont get him tho

SargentBargs101 · Post #6 » by **SargentBargs101** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:55 pm

trout?? highly doubt it though

-MetA4- · Post #7 » by **-MetA4-** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:02 pm

0% its Trout.

My guess is Skaggs.

Post #8 » by **Schad** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:05 pm

-MetA4- wrote:0% its Trout.

My guess is Skaggs.

Almost has to be Skaggs or Conger.

-MetA4- · Post #9 » by **-MetA4-** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:15 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Almost has to be Skaggs or Conger.

If it was Conger he wouldn't be a PTNL.

The reason I said Skaggs is because he is a top prospect who isn't eligible to be traded yet because it hasn't been a full year since he was signed, thus the need to PTBNL him.

How good am I? 8-)

BenBadler
Thinking aloud, if it's a PTBNL because it's an '09 draft pick, it could be LHP Tyler Skaggs, who didn't sign until 8/7/09

Pop Rozay · Post #10 » by **Pop Rozay** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:17 pm

plz mods give the man a cookie

SargentBargs101 · Post #11 » by **SargentBargs101** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:23 pm

don't you get a list of players when you get ptbnl in the deal? peter boujos*

Post #12 » by **Schad** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:23 pm

-MetA4- wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
Almost has to be Skaggs or Conger.

If it was Conger he wouldn't be a PTNL.

The reason I said Skaggs is because he is a top prospect who isn't eligible to be traded yet because it hasn't been a full year since he was signed, thus the need to PTBNL him.

Conger is on the 7-day DL right now...you can't trade minor leaguers on the DL, no?

Avenger · Post #13 » by **Avenger** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:27 pm

If it is Skagg, his numbers as a 18 year old in the Midwest league look pretty sick, is he considered THE main piece in the deal? I don't know anything about the other guys other than Joe Saunders is a horrible pitcher who is gonna get destroyed in chase field.

Avenger · Post #14 » by **Avenger** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:47 pm

Carlos Gonzalez
Brett Anderson
Chris Carter
Aaron Cunningham
Greg Smith
Dana Eveland

that is what the DBacks initially gave up for Danny Haren, the top three are probably better than any of the crap they got back and wasn't Eveland considered a good prospect back then?

Pop Rozay · Post #15 » by **Pop Rozay** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:54 pm

i wonder what the yanks were offering...

Hoopstarr · Post #16 » by **Hoopstarr** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:39 am

I get that Arizona was desperate to dump Haren's salary, but other teams must've had better prospects right? That franchise has been a total mess recently.

Avenger · Post #17 » by **Avenger** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:44 am

Hoopstarr wrote:I get that Arizona was desperate to dump Haren's salary, but other teams must've had better prospects right? That franchise has been a total mess recently.

They won't even save much money if they take Saunders to arbitration who'll earn like 7 million even though he doesn't deserve it, they traded one of the best pitchers on a great contract for the most overrated pitcher in Baseball. I thought it was just the politicians that were incompetent in Arizona, but apprently not, this is horrificly bad.

Hoopstarr · Post #18 » by **Hoopstarr** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:46 am

Avenger wrote:
Hoopstarr wrote:I get that Arizona was desperate to dump Haren's salary, but other teams must've had better prospects right? That franchise has been a total mess recently.

They won't even save much money if they take Saunders to arbitration who'll earn like 7 million even though he doesn't deserve it, they traded one of the best pitchers on a great contract for the most overrated pitcher in Baseball. The more i read about the prospects involve the more horrific i find this whole thing, what the hell are they smoking in Arizona

Just a horrendous deal. And it's obvious they asked for Saunders for PR purposes--"we got a major league starter back". A guy who has had an xFIP below 4.50 only once.

Randle McMurphy · Post #19 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:29 am

Just brutal. I don't understand how anybody in the DBacks organization could have possibly justified this.

-MetA4- · Post #20 » by **-MetA4-** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:49 am

I dont think this is a "brutal" deal. Seems better than the rumored deals with the Yankees. Its risky relying on two very young pitchers, but both Skaggs and Corbin show a lot of promise, on top of both being projectable lefties.