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Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 2:26 am
by baulderdash77
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/b ... um=twitter

.269 .315 .449 .765 last year with 14 HR's.

Cash and a player to be named later. They can pick up his option today by midnight I believe or he's a type B free agent.

They're either gearing up for a trade of some prospects or we're just acquiring a sandwich pick for draft picks.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 2:40 am
by Garmfay
AA = god? It's like buying a draft pick if the Jays decline his option. Type B free agent.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 2:45 am
by Randle McMurphy
Call me crazy, but I'd pick up the option. $2.7M is a pretty big bargain for what Olivo can provide.

They can even decide what to do between JPA and Olivo later.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 2:57 am
by Avenger
Miguel Olivo was pretty good last year, easily above average catcher, i'd hang on to him but wouldn't mind the pick either.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 2:59 am
by WpgPage
I would pick it up 42% CS is very nice a lot cheaper than Buck for similar production.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:02 am
by raptorforlife88
Either way AA goes it's good move.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:03 am
by OldNo7
Tough call here. I like an Olivo/Molina veteran combo, but at the same time, want to see JPA get some quality playing time in the bigs. If this is just to buy a draft pick, quite shrewd on AA's part.

http://tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=339933

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:10 am
by Randle McMurphy
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/1 ... guel-olivo

Yeah, I'm thinking picking up the option is the way to go. Olivo at $2.7M is worth more than a pick, I think. They can decide later what they want to do with him.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:23 am
by darth_federer
8 potential picks in the top 50 is crazy. They re rebuilding the team fast.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:31 am
by OldNo7
But if he wanted the draft pick from the Type B, why not just offer Buck arbitration?

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:31 am
by Hoopstarr
Bastian: Ask me? Seems like a case where Jays might decline the option to hopefully get the pick. Remember, re-signing Buck would cost Jays a pick.

Confused. How would it cost us a pick to re-sign Buck?

Edit: I guess he means they'd forgo the chance to get a pick

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:32 am
by Hoopstarr
OldNo7 wrote:But if he wanted the draft pick from the Type B, why not just offer Buck arbitration?


Maybe they think he would accept.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:34 am
by Schad
Any of the three possibilities (picking up the option, offering arb and having it declined, offering arb and having it accepted) is fine by me, but I would kinda like to see him return a pick.

Not because we're going to be lacking for picks, but because I can't think of another situation where a team has pulled something like this and essentially bought a draft choice.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:36 am
by OldNo7
Hoopstarr wrote:Bastian: Ask me? Seems like a case where Jays might decline the option to hopefully get the pick. Remember, re-signing Buck would cost Jays a pick.

Confused. How would it cost us a pick to re-sign Buck?

Edit: I guess he means they'd forgo the chance to get a pick


Because if we dont resign him we get a pick. I guess in this case, we have two Type B catchers on the market if we decline Olivo

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:40 am
by Schad
OldNo7 wrote:Because if we dont resign him we get a pick. I guess in this case, we have two Type B catchers on the market if we decline Olivo


Only if Olivo declines arbitration, which isn't a given. I still like the risk/reward of declining the option and offering it though, as worst-case it probably costs a few hundred thou extra.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:42 am
by Hoopstarr
OldNo7 wrote:
Hoopstarr wrote:Bastian: Ask me? Seems like a case where Jays might decline the option to hopefully get the pick. Remember, re-signing Buck would cost Jays a pick.

Confused. How would it cost us a pick to re-sign Buck?

Edit: I guess he means they'd forgo the chance to get a pick


Because if we dont resign him we get a pick. I guess in this case, we have two Type B catchers on the market if we decline Olivo


No I get that, but it sounded like he said we'd lose an additional pick.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:48 am
by Randle McMurphy
Schadenfreude wrote:Any of the three possibilities (picking up the option, offering arb and having it declined, offering arb and having it accepted) is fine by me, but I would kinda like to see him return a pick.

Not because we're going to be lacking for picks, but because I can't think of another situation where a team has pulled something like this and essentially bought a draft choice.

It would be amusing, but there seems to be more value in just picking up that cheap option.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:50 am
by Hoopstarr
The Rockies really wanted to save that 500k I guess.

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:51 am
by darth_federer
I dont understand why the Rockies just didnt keep the guy, decline his option and get a pick back. Am I missing something here?

Re: Blue Jays acquire Miguel Olivo

Posted: Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:51 am
by hyper316
Hoopstarr wrote:The Rockies really wanted to save that 500k I guess.


well the rockies can be receiving a player to be named or cash. so maybe they wanted more money?