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OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:29 am
by gill612
Hey guys here is the list of AL gold glove winners. It seems as though it's almost as same as the AL All Star starting lineup. How can you say that these players are that good defensively just because of their offensive statistics. There must be some more deserving players out there.
C Joe Mauer, Twins
1B Mark Teixeira, Yankees
2B Robinson Cano, Yankees
3B Evan Longoria, Rays
SS Derek Jeter, Yankees
OF Ichiro Suzuki, Mariners
OF Carl Crawford, Rays
OF Franklin Gutierrez, Mariners
P Mark Buehrle, White Sox
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:59 am
by Hoopstarr
- Baseball Reference
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:30 am
by baulderdash77
The Jeter one is just stupid. Now there's a guy who really didn't deserve it.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:06 am
by Nolan
Andrus got robbed, no way Jeter should of won that.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:30 am
by DonYon
Derek Jeter doesn't win Gold Gloves, Gold Glove wins him
...that doesn't make any sense but you get the point .
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:43 am
by KPJR
i think they shouldn't give gold gloves at every position...a lot position players are undeserving..and are given just for the sake of filling the award...
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:49 am
by Geddy
Jeter has to be one of the most overrated SS of this era.
Cue that clip of him diving into the stands in that playoff game years ago.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:03 am
by CapeCrusader
rkid wrote:Jeter has to be one of the most overrated SS of this era.
Cue that clip of him diving into the stands in that playoff game years ago.
Yeah that was stupid...he dove farther then he needed for that one to make it look harder then it was for him.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:45 am
by OldNo7
Jeter hasnt deserved at least his last three gold gloves, but all members of the baseball media have the biggest collective hard-on for him its disturbing.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:45 pm
by Fairview4Life
So when does this start invalidating the gold glove award in general?
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:47 pm
by evilRyu
And yet, he Yankees are thinking of switching his position
what a joke
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:59 pm
by Michael Bradley
Rafael Palmeiro won the 1B Gold Glove in 1999. That year he played 28 games at 1B and 135 at DH.
In other words, the award was a joke years ago. Making it look any more meaningless would be impossible.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:08 pm
by Homer Jay
This award like the Selke award in hockey stopped being about being good at your position defensively but about rewarding good offensive players who didn't quite make it for MVP awards. If it was legit the list would actually be populated with players most fans would rarely see play and the league has not interest in promoting people like John MacDonald.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:47 pm
by number15
evilRyu wrote:And yet, he Yankees are thinking of switching his position
what a joke
if thats the case, our prospect
Hechevaria, would have been better off signing in NY..... i think he rejected them because they were set at SS with Jeter.
now he has a problem in Toronto, with Escobar
................. oh, well, depth cant be bad
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:12 pm
by hsb
Seeing Jeter's name reminded me of the NBA's All-NBA defencive teams.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:26 pm
by Schad
Fairview4Life wrote:So when does this start invalidating the gold glove award in general?
Think we've long since passed that point. At least Gutierrez actually won this year.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:35 pm
by vaff87
Schadenfreude wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:So when does this start invalidating the gold glove award in general?
Think we've long since passed that point. At least Gutierrez actually won this year.
Do you think he would have if Torii Hunter hadn't been moved to RF? Not that Torii Hunter would have deserved it over him, just that moving to RF hurts Hunter's "reputation" as a defensive player.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:41 pm
by Schad
vaff87 wrote:Do you think he would have if Torii Hunter hadn't been moved to RF? Not that Torii Hunter would have deserved it over him, just that moving to RF hurts Hunter's "reputation" as a defensive player.
Probably not, and the irony is that Gutierrez was less deserving this year than last. But having won one, he can pencil in the award for the next decade, even if he ends up in a wheelchair.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:59 pm
by mini
I have sort of always wondered why they don't have scouts vote for player awards - esp gold glove. I figure no one would know more about the players than advanced scouts that see the whole league all the time.
Re: OT: AL Gold Glove Winners
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:18 pm
by L3M0NAD3
This award unfortunately is voted on by people who they are most familiar with, the "stars", generally the more popular the player, the more you're likely to see of them and hence they get voted for. It is often that players offensive prowess that draws the attention and therefore the award.
Which is obviously ass backwards.
http://espn.go.com/blog/SweetSpot/post/_/id/6238/gold-glove-results-mixed-as-usualGreat write up by Rob Neyer about Jeter being undeserving.
Of course, it's not just us. Nobody who really follows baseball believes that Jeter is an outstanding defensive player. The Yankees, who see him every day, don't believe that. The writers who cover the Yankees every day don't believe that. Frankly, I'm not sure the managers and the coaches who actually voted for Jeter believe that.
I think they keep giving him the award as a gesture of respect. In a different sort of society, they might simply bow in his presence, then kiss one of his World Series rings. Or cross themselves whenever Game 3 of the Yankees' 2001 Division Series is mentioned. Instead they somewhat mindlessly give him their Gold Glove support every year, even as everyone who's actually paying attention knows the Yankees would prevent more runs if almost anyone else were playing shortstop.