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Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:52 pm
by Kaizen
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2010/1 ... ys_ottawa/The Ottawa Citizen reported Thursday that a city councillor has been negotiating with the Toronto Blue Jays about bringing a minor league team to Ottawa.
College Councillor Rick Chiarelli has been working on bringing a team here since last spring and club officials have seen the stadium.
Chiarelli is optimistic a deal can be worked out.
"If the (Blue Jays) were disinterested, I wouldn't be doing this," Chiarelli said. "I've discussed the possibility of an affiliated team."
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:09 am
by KPJR
would we be relocating from las vegas to ottawa?
btw what happened to the ottawa lynx?
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:12 am
by Kaizen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_LynxIn late August 2006, the league approved the conditions to negotiate the sale of the team. The new owners moved the team to Allentown, Pennsylvania beginning with the 2008 season, where it is known as the Lehigh Valley IronPigs.[1] The team's move to Allentown, the third largest city in Pennsylvania, has brought it within the Phillies' fan base region.
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:57 am
by evilRyu
ottawa represent!
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:04 am
by Mike Hunt
I'm not sure what would happen if a Jays affiliate was put in Ottawa. When the Lynx were the Expos' AAA affiliate, the stadium was quite empty. Then, they became affiliated with the Orioles and the crowds became even more miniature (I once counted out 240 fans while they announced 1100 on the P.A. system). After that was over, in came the Ottawa Rapidz which was a huge failure (understandably so since the level of baseball just wasn't there).
The only thing that might make me believe that a Jays affiliate in Ottawa could work is that the one time that I went to a game and the crowd was huge (I'm talking 80% capacity vs. the usual 15%), it was an A.J. Burnett rehab start back when he was a Jay, which makes me think that there might be more Jays interest in Ottawa than there ever was in the Expos (the local sports radio station had been hyping the game quite a bit too). That day, the stadium was electric and it really was the most fun I've ever had there (Burnett struggled in the game and no one really cared).
It's sad to think that the stadium could go to waste. I actually think it's a very good venue for baseball: efficiently built in a fairly accessible part of the city. No bad seats and the pricing has always been very reasonable... I used to be part of a "student" club that allowed my buddy and I to get 2 for 1 tickets. Cheap seats were $8 and expensive ones were $11. Of course, we'd always get cheapies and move in directly behind the scouts with the radar guns. We'd walk to the game from my place which meant the entire outing could cost us each only $4. When you're short on cash, it's nice to be able to fill a day for such a low price. On occasion, we'd indulge in beer which made the experience that much better, but those days were rare (we were two pretty frugal guys).
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:29 pm
by evilRyu
Mike Hunt wrote:
The only thing that might make me believe that a Jays affiliate in Ottawa could work is that the one time that I went to a game and the crowd was huge (I'm talking 80% capacity vs. the usual 15%), it was an A.J. Burnett rehab start back when he was a Jay, which makes me think that there might be more Jays interest in Ottawa than there ever was in the Expos (the local sports radio station had been hyping the game quite a bit too). That day, the stadium was electric and it really was the most fun I've ever had there (Burnett struggled in the game and no one really cared).
what were the crowds like when Syracuse was in town?
oh, and FP Santangelo ftw..
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:20 am
by Mike Hunt
It always depended on who was on the farm at the time. I would say that the crowd was about 50-75% bigger for Syracuse (realistically, the paid attendance number probably wasn't that big a difference but the number of people who showed up was). My guess is that standard attendance was 1 500 and in many cases, the crowd for a Syracuse game was in the 2250 - 2500 range. I don't have the actual numbers but this is what my visual interpretation of it would be (the ratios are right).
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:24 pm
by Scorpion King
I am sure AA and the team is doing cost vs benefit analysis. It makes sense to have a team in Ottawa. Close to Jays region and also it makes it close to being called Canada`s Team. Callups can be here in hours compared to Vegas. This will improve and increase the fanbase. I do not know why they put a team in Las Vegas to begin with.
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:22 pm
by LittleOzzy
Minor-league ball in Ottawa still possibility, Chiarelli saysCity councillor Rick Chiarelli says he has talked to two potential local ownership groups who have expressed interest in taking at least a minority interest in a potential new Blue Jays affiliate in Ottawa, most likely at the Double-A level.
I spoke with Chiarelli not long after he had dental surgery, so perhaps the novocaine still hadn't worn off. But he seems convinced that, despite declining attendance and increasing losses for the Ottawa Lynx for several years leading up to their demise in 2007, baseball can thrive in this city.
"It depends on a couple of things coming together," says Chiarelli. "There would have to be a local owner who owns at least 25 to 30 per cent of the club. And there has to be a solution on the parking issue around the stadium."
Minor-league baseball teams with affiliations to major-league clubs have almost disappeared from Canada over the last decade. The sole exception is the Vancouver Canadians, who were Oakland's short-season Single-A affiliate for the past 11 seasons.
But now, it seems, the Blue Jays want to see more of their own minor-league teams in Canada. Toronto has signed an agreement with Vancouver to become a Blue Jays affiliate starting in 2011. Sometimes, the shuffling of an affiliation is done with little fanfare, but in this case the Jays brought out their heavy hitters. Team president Paul Beeston and general manager Alex Anthopoulos were both in Vancouver for the announcement, along with Phil Lind, the vice-chair of the Jays' parent company, Rogers.
Lind made it clear that aligning with the Canadians was done in part to build Rogers' brand on the west coast, where it competes head-to-head with Vancouver-based Telus. Earlier this year, Rogers purchased the naming rights for the Canucks' hockey arena, formerly known as GM Place.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/Min ... story.html
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:31 am
by baulderdash77
If they're affiliated with the Blue Jays then I think they will be a hit. The team is clearly trying to re-establish a national brand and by building the farm system in Canada, I believe it will re-ignite the fanbase. Especially now that we're building through the system.
Fans in Vancouver will see players come through A ball and Ottawa will see players come through AA. By the time the players make it to the big club, they will already have a following.
It's a sound long term branding strategy IMO.
Re: Farm team in Ottawa?
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:36 am
by Mike Hunt
I would lose my mind if a AA or AAA affiliate team was put in Ottawa. With the news of the west coast affiliate, I think it'd probably be an even better move to have an affiliate in Montreal, though. I think you'd have the natural aversion to anything Jays from the die-hard Expos fans but if they could somehow "give ownership" of the club to Montreal (ie, naming the team something different from the Expos but unmistakenly Quebecois) and find a venue that stirs interest (like the Alouettes did), I think that it could eventually work.
Assuming the parking wouldn't be crazily priced, I would probably get season tickets (assuming I started working a 9-5 shift) if the Jays had an affiliate in Ottawa.