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OT: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:57 am
by Schad
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:00 am
by SharoneWright
Whoa!
Yankees got played?
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:01 am
by DonYon
omg...
kyle kendrick is no longer in the rotation?!?!?!?!?
okay but seriously, no fricken way. they're gonna be the favorites to win by a ridiculous margin.
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:02 am
by evilRyu
........ WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:03 am
by rtcaino
Schadenfreude wrote:http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/12/cliff_lee_is_going_to_philadel.html
Wowza. Guess trading him worked out, after all.
Thank you lord for Lee not going to the Yankees
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:05 am
by Relentless88
Damn Yankees have to do something now. Phillies add Lee and BoSox add Crawford/Gonzalez.
Halladay/Lee/Oswalt/Hamels???!?!? Are you freakin kidding me?
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:05 am
by SharoneWright
TJ Caino wrote:Schadenfreude wrote:http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/12/cliff_lee_is_going_to_philadel.html
Wowza. Guess trading him worked out, after all.
Thank you lord for Lee not going to the Yankees
Quick! Let's trade for Marcum. Yanks look vulnerable
this year!
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:07 am
by DonYon
Relentless88 wrote:Damn Yankees have to do something now. Phillies add Lee and BoSox add Crawford/Gonzalez.
Halladay/Lee/Oswalt/Hamels???!?!? Are you freakin kidding me?
I would assume they're gonna push real hard for Greinke now...
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:08 am
by spykelee
TJ Caino wrote:Schadenfreude wrote:http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/12/cliff_lee_is_going_to_philadel.html
Wowza. Guess trading him worked out, after all.
Thank you lord for Lee not going to the Yankees
+1. I'm surprised they let him get away after what Boston has done though
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:09 am
by SharoneWright
spykelee wrote:TJ Caino wrote:Schadenfreude wrote:http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/12/cliff_lee_is_going_to_philadel.html
Wowza. Guess trading him worked out, after all.
Thank you lord for Lee not going to the Yankees
+1. I'm surprised they let him get away after what Boston has done though
Seems money couldn't have done it as Yanks had offered 150/7 and Lee got 100/5. Yanks didn't make any mistakes.... they just got spurned.
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:13 am
by Macho
I love this, suck on that Yankees!
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:15 am
by Mr.Raptorsingh
Yankees are probably going to push HARD for Greinke now....because if they don't, the Jays could very well finish ahead of them - how sweet would that be? Besides, I'm not sure if even Greinke is going to be enough. It'd give them a rotation of Sabathia, Greinke, Hughes, Nova, Burnett.
They are going to need a bounce back year from Burnett, and continued growth from Hughes, Nova.
Jays would have to make some moves too, though. Not sure what AA's priorities are - internal development vs. accelerating the process?
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:19 am
by G-Mac
Sweet!
Now in an ideal world, the Yankees go hard after Greinke, clearing out their top prospects to get him, after which he sucks because he stresses to much pitching in New York or maybe he just doesn't return to form, and signs somewhere else in 2 years. At this time, the Jays are legit, and the Yankees old after missing out on free agents summer 2011 too and don't have any of their prospects ready to play because of Greinke...
Side note --> shoot this is like a Miami Heat situation except they have a solid supporting structure around the big guys.
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:19 am
by Schad
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Yankees are probably going to push HARD for Greinke now....because if they don't, the Jays could very well finish ahead of them - how sweet would that be?
Unfortunately it isn't likely...the Yankees haven't actually taken a step back from being the 95 win team they were a year ago, it just seems that way given the talent that the Red Sox have added. They might not win the division now, but with the Rays falling off and none of the AL Central/West teams really improving they're virtually guaranteed a playoff spot.
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:20 am
by ItsDanger
Huge surprise. Obviously he didnt want to play in NY. Yankees are looking suspect at this pt. Boston looks good though.
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:23 am
by spykelee
SharoneWright wrote:
Seems money couldn't have done it as Yanks had offered 150/7 and Lee got 100/5. Yanks didn't make any mistakes.... they just got spurned.
is the contract he signed 100/5? I hadn't heard that yet. In any event, I guess the bombers can thank there fans for spitting on his wife in the playoffs. I'd say that likely factored into where the lee's wanted to go.
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:25 am
by G-Mac
Schadenfreude wrote:Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Yankees are probably going to push HARD for Greinke now....because if they don't, the Jays could very well finish ahead of them - how sweet would that be?
Unfortunately it isn't likely...the Yankees haven't actually taken a step back from being the 95 win team they were a year ago, it just seems that way given the talent that the Red Sox have added. They might not win the division now, but with the Rays falling off and none of the AL Central/West teams really improving they're virtually guaranteed a playoff spot.
I am going to say they have not exactly taken a step back, but they have turned in the wrong direction and started inching that way, and that is based solely on an aging line-up. Not a lot of youth and potential, but a lot of old guys getting older. Jeter, A-Rod, Posada (Though I think Montero is potentially starting, unless he is traded....

), Pettitte gone likely, Rivera has gotta show some signs of wearing soon doesn't he? They are still a very good team though (Cano, Teixeira, Swish, Sabathia etc), and I wouldn't hesitate to say playoffs shouldn't be a problem for them even if they don't make any more moves.
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:27 am
by raptorforlife88
According to Heyman Yanks don't want to go after Grienke (plus they don't have the pieces)
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:30 am
by xAIRNESSx
Interesting turn of events. The supposed reason the Phillies traded Lee was because he didn't want to sign an extension and they were worried about how much he would command once he became a free agent. Guess he had a change of heart. I always find it somewhat respectable whenever a player takes less money for the chance to win.
Re: Cliff Lee signs...back in Philly
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:32 am
by raptorforlife88
I think if Phillies is 5/100, he gave up about 55 million dollars over two years to do this. Clearly not about the money this guy.