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Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:19 pm
by Wally West
Which Blue Jays Player do you think will receive Type A and B statuses by the end of the season. Here's my projection and share your thoughts
Fransisco - Type A
Rauch - Type B
Camp - Type A - With the season this year and with the one last year, he' has to
Frasor - Type A - It could drop down to Type B status but we'll just have to wait
Encarnacion - Type B
McDonald - Type B - If he has the type of season hitting wise like last season, he just might be
Molina - Type B - who knows what will happen with this guy but he's somewhat of a valuable commodity especially with a renewed bat playing for the Blue Jays
If I'm forgetting someone, let me know .
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:29 pm
by sonn
What was impressive about McDonald's hitting last season? I'm fairly certain the Jays won't get a comp pick for him or Molina.
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:34 pm
by Wally West
sonn wrote:What was impressive about McDonald's hitting last season? I'm fairly certain the Jays won't get a comp pick for him or Molina.
The thing is that over the past few seasons, guys that weren't as valuable as McDonald and Molina were getting Type B statuses so anything can happen .
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:23 pm
by WpgPage
Molina and McDonald will not be ranked, most of the revilers will get B maybe one or 2 A's
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:10 pm
by flatjacket1
sonn wrote:What was impressive about McDonald's hitting last season? I'm fairly certain the Jays won't get a comp pick for him or Molina.
A huge part of Elias rankings are PA. I can see Molina getting type B (Unlikely type A) and I can see McDonald having a shot at type B.
My list:
Aaron Hill: Type A
Frank Francisco: Type A
Juan Rivera: Type B
Jason Frasor: Type B
Jose Molina: Type B
Shaun Camp: Possibly Type B
John MacDonald: Possibly Type B
Correy Patterson: None
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:22 pm
by Schad
My guess (keep in mind that many of these guys have options):
Camp - Type A
Frasor - Type B
Francisco - Type B
Rauch - Type B
Hill - Type B or N/A
Encarnacion - N/A, though he has a shot at Type B if we actually play him day-in and day-out.
Dotel - N/A
Rivera - N/A
Molina - N/A, very outside shot at Type B (though he'd likely take arb)
McDonald - not a hope in hell. Doesn't matter...wouldn't offer him arbitration, anyway.
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:48 pm
by rtcaino
flatjacket1 wrote:
My list:
Aaron Hill: Type A
If he goes into Beastista mode, possibly.
But ya, very doubtful. Very very doubtful.
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:50 pm
by rtcaino
I could see Dotel getting Type B if he is used right. But I would also see him accepting arb in that case.
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:06 am
by OldNo7
TJ Caino wrote:flatjacket1 wrote:
My list:
Aaron Hill: Type A
If he goes into Beastista mode, possibly.
But ya, very doubtful. Very very doubtful.
If he returns to 2009 form we probably pick up the next 2 years on his contract. If he doesnt, he becomes a FA and would be fetch a B at best.
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:18 am
by flatjacket1
TJ Caino wrote:flatjacket1 wrote:
My list:
Aaron Hill: Type A
If he goes into Beastista mode, possibly.
But ya, very doubtful. Very very doubtful.
Well according to Elias rankings he would have classified as a "Type A" free agent last year.
People tend to forget Elias rankings, which are used to decide compensation value, are skewed and amateur outdated statistics which have nearly no representation of a players actual ability. Second base depends on PA, AVG, OBP, HR, RBI, Fielding percentage, Total chances at designated position. That means if you start a guy and he has 600 PA with a suitable number of putouts/assist then he will get type A compensation regardless of ability.
Don't use players ability on this thread, use inaccurate Elias guesses.
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:18 pm
by augustine
flatjacket1 wrote:
Well according to Elias rankings he would have classified as a "Type A" free agent last year.
My understanding is that Elias uses the past 2 years in their calculation, so Hill's monster 2009 season would have counted last year, thus giving him the A status. But, his 2009 season will not count at the end of this year, so he will not be an A.
Re: Which Blue Jays Player Will Receive Type A and B Status ??
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:11 pm
by Schad
augustine wrote:My understanding is that Elias uses the past 2 years in their calculation, so Hill's monster 2009 season would have counted last year, thus giving him the A status. But, his 2009 season will not count at the end of this year, so he will not be an A.
You are correct. His ranking will be based solely on his 2010 and 2011 seasons, and with his struggles last year he isn't going to achieve Type A unless he rebounds to have a very big year...he was the lowest-ranked Type A at 2B/SS/3B after 2010 even with his monster season included.