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the 2nd base screw up: is it too late?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:15 pm
by number15
Brett Lawrie was being trained as a 2nd base man in Milwaukee.... then the Jays started him as a 3rd baseman because AA had faith that Hill would bounce back

as a result Lawrie is our future 3rd baseman and Hill looks to be playing himself out of Toronto. Jays also have no other options in the minor any time soon at 2nd base. or atleast anything of substance.

also this blocks the other big prospect Thames from 3rd base..... Thames and Lawrie were the highlights of the JAYS preseason, but now play the same position.

can Lawrie be put back at 2B now?...... probably not
but Lawrie would have more value at 2B also because of the way he hits.

as a result only way Thames is not trade bait is if Snider screws up royally in LF..... which sux for JAYS also cause how much they invested in Snider and Thames is a worse defender in the OF than him anyway.

Thams at 3B.. Lawrie at 2B..... now that would sound good for a decade to come

Re: the 2nd base screw up: is it too late?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:23 pm
by Schad
Thames isn't a third baseman, he's an outfielder. He has never played third base as a pro, and couldn't.

And Lawrie wouldn't make for a major league quality second baseman, so third is the best option.

Re: the 2nd base screw up: is it too late?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:29 pm
by number15
Schadenfreude wrote:Thames isn't a third baseman, he's an outfielder. He has never played third base as a pro, and couldn't.

And Lawrie wouldn't make for a major league quality second baseman, so third is the best option.


sorry.... i though Thames played 3B.... my bad
I guess he has his chance with Snider out now then.


*** on a side note: did u know Thames was originally a Yankees draft pick :)

Re: the 2nd base screw up: is it too late?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:53 pm
by mikero
Third base is arguably more of a concern. And its a more natural position for Lawrie as well.

I have faith that Hill can at least be average, and if not AA has stockpiled enough assets to trade for another 2B when the time is right.

Re: the 2nd base screw up: is it too late?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:30 am
by WpgPage
Lawrie was also regarded as one of the worst fielding second basemen scouts had ever seen he was terrible. At this point keeping him in the IF itself is a major bonus.

Re: the 2nd base screw up: is it too late?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:35 am
by baulderdash77
I'm pretty sure Hill is bouncing back. He's been playing very well lately.

Re: the 2nd base screw up: is it too late?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:36 am
by luenell
worst thing you could do is start screwing around with the guy's role like the yanks with chamberlain. see if the guy can handle 3rd and at worst, you can pick up a FA 2nd baseman

Re: the 2nd base screw up: is it too late?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:31 am
by OldNo7
LOL @ Thames playing 3B.

I fully expect a middle infield of Adieny and Escobar at SS/2B in the near future, but not sure who to expect at which spot - likely Escobar getting shifted.