RealGM

The Tigers have acquired pitcher Doug Fister -- the most unsettlingly-named member of the Josh Outman All-Stars -- and reliever David Pauley for Charlie Furbush, Casper Wells, 20 year old Double-A 3B and strikeout artist Francisco Martinez, and a PTBNL who reportedly could be a pretty big prospect. Fister has significant home/road splits over his career, so leaving Safeco might be less than pleasant.

is there an opposite all star team from the outmans for charlie furbush?

Hunter Pence to Philadelphia for Cosart, Singleton, and 2 PTBNL is pretty nuts considering what we got Rasmus for. Granted, Pence has consistently showed productivity (though his numbers look odd to me) and Philadelphia is in win now mode.

Pence is a very good player (heh, though his 2009-2010 performances are roughly equal to those of the much-younger Rasmus), and he's under team control for two more years. Still, the Astros did well; Cosart and Singleton have massive upside.

Pence is a little more established than Rasmus, but the difference in prices was staggering. But it looks like Philly only wanted to deal prospects, and the Cards in getting Jackson, Rzep, and Dotel wanted win now players.

Fister and Pauley for Casper Wells and a pair of middling prospects... makes you think there are teams who would value Francisco and Rauch more than we do.

Fister Furbush Well

Interesting trade

Apparently we're still in the hunt for Bell too for some reason:

Here is the up-date on Heath Bell: Texas, St.Louis, Toronto are the clear leaders to get Bell...LAA,NYY,Phil are still kicking tires

According to Rosenthal, the Rangers have acquired Uehara for Davis/Hunter

What a terrible deal for the Orioles. I'm not sure that Hunter is big-league quality in the AL East, and Chris Davis is a large pile of suck.

It looks to me like if the Jays want Ubaldo, he's there for the taking. Apparently the Red Sox and Reds haven't been in contact with the Rockies for a while, which leaves the Yankees, Indians, and Jays as the main suitors for him. And the Jays can certainly offer better prospects than either of those two teams.

I guess it comes down to whether the Rockies will bring the price down over the next day. They probably value him as an ace, while the Jays don't.

Schadenfreude wrote:What a terrible deal for the Orioles. I'm not sure that Hunter is big-league quality in the AL East, and Chris Davis is a large pile of suck.

As good a Uehara is, he's still just a reliever. I think Hunter could conceivably be worth more than him over the next few seasons.

Randle McMurphy wrote:

Schadenfreude wrote:What a terrible deal for the Orioles. I'm not sure that Hunter is big-league quality in the AL East, and Chris Davis is a large pile of suck.

As good a Uehara is, he's still just a reliever. I think Hunter could conceivably be worth more than him over the next few seasons.

My reaction isn't really to what they traded, so much as the fact that I think that Hunter will be replacement-level in the East, and Davis is a AAAA player. That seems a bad return for any player that was drawing multi-team interest.

Can someone please explain the logic in trading Denard Span, who has a great contract, for a relief pitcher? It boggles my mind.

sonn wrote:Can someone please explain the logic in trading Denard Span, who has a great contract, for a relief pitcher?

No.

I wonder if Merkin Valdez knows Charlie Furbush?

Why is it that year after year of **** baseball that the mariners continue to hold onto ichiro. i think he should have been dealt 3 seasons ago for value. i severly doubt he pulls in alot now other than some b level prospects from a team like the sox, yankees, giants etc

Randle McMurphy wrote:

Schadenfreude wrote:What a terrible deal for the Orioles. I'm not sure that Hunter is big-league quality in the AL East, and Chris Davis is a large pile of suck.

As good a Uehara is, he's still just a reliever. I think Hunter could conceivably be worth more than him over the next few seasons.

hunter = Jo Jo Reyes(i don;t really trust his improvement this year) and Davis is Quad A. Its not a great return for Koji at all IMO

Avenger wrote:

Randle McMurphy wrote:

Schadenfreude wrote:What a terrible deal for the Orioles. I'm not sure that Hunter is big-league quality in the AL East, and Chris Davis is a large pile of suck.

As good a Uehara is, he's still just a reliever. I think Hunter could conceivably be worth more than him over the next few seasons.

hunter = Jo Jo Reyes(i don;t really trust his improvement this year) and Davis is Quad A. Its not a great return for Koji at all IMO

I'm not optimistic about Davis, but I still think Hunter has a chance to be a decent major league starter.

Micheal Bourn traded to Atlanta.

The Astros will receive center fielder Jordan Schafer, southpaw Double-A starter Brett Oberholtzer, righty Double-A starter Paul Clemens, and righty Triple-A reliever Juan Abreu, tweets ESPN's Jayson Stark. None of the three pitchers are top 50 prospects, but they did rank ninth, 26th, and 27th respectively for the Braves on Baseball America's preseason rankings.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/b ... bourn.html