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Report: Playoff expansion next season almost a done deal 

Post#1 » by baulderdash77 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:14 pm

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/ ... chGX94ZGaM

I don't know if I like a 1 game playoff but it sure adds to the pressure to win the division.

This is really great news for us if it's true.
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Post#2 » by Cyrus » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:08 pm

Yeah not sure on the 1 game winner takes all scenario here...
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Post#3 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:09 pm

A sudden-death playoff is a horrible idea, IMO. The worst team in the league will beat the best team in the league 30% of the time, so how does a single game prove which of the two wild card teams is best?
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Post#4 » by Kaizen » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:12 pm

Lateral Quicks wrote:A sudden-death playoff is a horrible idea, IMO. The worst team in the league will beat the best team in the league 30% of the time, so how does a single game prove which of the two wild card teams is best?


Exactly. As much as I want more playoff teams, this is just a terrible way of going about it. I would rather stick with the system we have then switch to this.
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Post#5 » by Skin Blues » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:34 pm

Essentially they're trying to make games more important in September without actually adding any playoff teams. Do not like. Scrap the stupid divisions and then we'd be getting somewhere...
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Post#6 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:49 pm

Lateral Quicks wrote:A sudden-death playoff is a horrible idea, IMO. The worst team in the league will beat the best team in the league 30% of the time, so how does a single game prove which of the two wild card teams is best?

It doesn't, but it increases the chances of the Jays playing meaningful baseball and winning the World Series (and provides more incentive for Rogers to actually try to win), so I'm completely in favor of it.

The talk of a more balanced schedule in that article, though, is something that could save this organization.
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Post#7 » by CrymeTime » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:48 pm

They should remove all interleague games.

Make each league have an East (7 AL, 8 NL) and West (7 AL, 8 NL) Division.

AL
vs Division - 14 games x 6 teams = 84
vs non-Division - 10 games x 7 teams = 70
total 154 games

NL
vs Division - 12 games x 7 teams = 84
vs non-Division - 9 games x 8 teams = 72
total 156 games


I don't think both leagues have to play the same amount of games.
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Post#8 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:11 am

That is a horrible idea. Even if it means we might manage to sneak into the playoffs, I'm still totally against it.
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Post#9 » by Mak » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:01 am

Stupid stupid idea. 6 team idea is much better.
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Post#10 » by Wo1verine » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:26 am

1-game sudden death would be great for tv ratings. Very intriguing scenario. Although I would prefer at-least a 3-game series.
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Post#11 » by Schad » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:51 am

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Lateral Quicks wrote:A sudden-death playoff is a horrible idea, IMO. The worst team in the league will beat the best team in the league 30% of the time, so how does a single game prove which of the two wild card teams is best?

It doesn't, but it increases the chances of the Jays playing meaningful baseball and winning the World Series (and provides more incentive for Rogers to actually try to win), so I'm completely in favor of it.

The talk of a more balanced schedule in that article, though, is something that could save this organization.


Yeah. I'd much prefer a three-game playoff, but even shaving a series off of each in-division matchup could mean a difference of 3+ wins a year for the Jays. That would be huge.
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Post#12 » by baulderdash77 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:35 pm

An extra playoff spot and a balancing of the schedules would be huge for us. I would prefer a 3 game series for the wild card not a 1 game, but I'd take what I can get. I think it's enough for us to open the wallets and go for it.

9 less games against the AL East should give us almost 2 more wins per year.

The big thing for us would be a system similar to the NFL to determine your interleague series games- i.e. 4th place teams from last year play 4th place teams this year etc. That could get us another 2 wins right there because our interleague schedule is always so brutal.
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Post#13 » by tecumseh18 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:40 pm

baulderdash77 wrote:I would prefer a 3 game series for the wild card not a 1 game, but I'd take what I can get.


Exactly. Be happy with this, and see if MLB decides to push for longer series in subsequent years.


We just have to make sure we sign an unhittable pitcher this off-season so that we can win that one game. Get back to Japan, AA.
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Post#14 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:00 pm

I'm all in on the 1 or 3 game playoff. In fact I think I made a thread on this board a few years ago directly proposing it

For the people who say 1 G is too short to decide the WC winner, what that means to me is that the best WC team is now a way worse position to be in than it is now, where the WC is really no worse off than a division winner. And I'm all for that. Winning the division vs winning the WC now becomes a big difference. Good. If you don't want to be in the playoff, win your division. Even getting into the WC should be a luxury if you're not the best team in your division. Plus then the WC game winners doesn't get to pitch their ace in G1 or twice in a 5 game series

Also, it's **** fantastic for the Blue Jays. So nobody should be complaining.
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Post#15 » by tsherkin » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:34 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:It doesn't, but it increases the chances of the Jays playing meaningful baseball and winning the World Series (and provides more incentive for Rogers to actually try to win), so I'm completely in favor of it.


+1

I don't care if it is volatile and if bad teams can take out good teams; that happens in the playoffs sometimes anyway. Oh well. It'll make it more interesting and it will give US more of a chance. The Hell do I care about the rest of the league if this helps the Jays?
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Post#16 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:36 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:It doesn't, but it increases the chances of the Jays playing meaningful baseball and winning the World Series (and provides more incentive for Rogers to actually try to win), so I'm completely in favor of it.


+1

I don't care if it is volatile and if bad teams can take out good teams; that happens in the playoffs sometimes anyway. Oh well. It'll make it more interesting and it will give US more of a chance. The Hell do I care about the rest of the league if this helps the Jays?

You don't. MLB has screwed the Jays for 15 years with the division/schedule format, it's about time that we got something that can help us play playoff baseball (which is pretty much a crapshoot, anyway, even without an elimination game).
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Post#17 » by tsherkin » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:09 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:You don't. MLB has screwed the Jays for 15 years with the division/schedule format, it's about time that we got something that can help us play playoff baseball (which is pretty much a crapshoot, anyway, even without an elimination game).


Precisely.
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Post#18 » by Michael Bradley » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:02 pm

The reshuffling of the schedule will help the Jays far more than the extra wild card will. If the extra wild card were around today, the Jays would be 8 games back of it. It would just be Tampa and Boston fighting it out for a game to see who moves on. So the Jays basically have to leap frog one of the top three Eastern teams plus hope that no one in the Central or West (other than the division winners) goes on to win 90+ games.

It will help the Jays, but not that much unless they fix the unbalanced schedule, and even then all that means is the Yankees, Red Sox, and Tampa play each other less too (hence they will win more games).

The Jays just need to worry about putting the best team on the field, and if the extra wild card gives Rogers some incentive to actually spend, then thank goodness.
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Post#19 » by SharoneWright » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:14 pm

Makes winning your division more important - much less is guaranteed for any wild card team. In that sense, the traditionalist in me likes the idea.
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Re: Report: Playoff expansion next season almost a done dea 

Post#20 » by tecumseh18 » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:21 am

Michael Bradley wrote:
It will help the Jays, but not that much unless they fix the unbalanced schedule, and even then all that means is the Yankees, Red Sox, and Tampa play each other less too (hence they will win more games).


Yeah, the unbalanced schedule isn't an issue as long as all the wildcard contenders come from the East. In fact, the Jays have done a lousy job lately (e.g August) on feeding on the crappy teams outside this division.

But a balanced schedule may make it easier to attract SPs in the offseason through FA or waiving of trade restrictions (Greinke?). I don't know if Darvish cares, but he might.

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