Page 1 of 2

Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:35 am
by baulderdash77
http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=41060

"The Jays would love to sign Sabathia to team him up with their current ace, Ricky Romero. Signing Sabathia would also tell Toronto’s fan base that the franchise is once again ready to go head-to-head with “the big boys” of the American League East."

This would be the best moment post 1993 for any Blue Jay fan. I can only imagine the NYY fanbase going crazy.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:12 am
by Homer Jay
It would certainly be the biggest F.U. moment in baseball in quite a while, but I just don't see it happening.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:36 am
by Randle McMurphy
More than any other free agent, I'd rather spend our money on CC. It would make the Jays significantly better and also be a devastating blow to NYY.

It would be more than a bit odd to get rid of Roy Halladay and spend way more on another ace a few years later, though.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:58 am
by UN-Owen
Like I'm waiting in the wings for Jessica Alba

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:02 am
by s e n s i
bahahahaha

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:23 am
by Raps in 4
Randle McMurphy wrote:It would be more than a bit odd to get rid of Roy Halladay and spend way more on another ace a few years later, though.


+1

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:41 pm
by Michael Bradley
Sabathia would be a great signing, but I can't see 1) him leaving the Yankees, and 2) Rogers spending $25+ million a year on him for the next 6-7 years.

And yes, the Jays already had the best pitcher in baseball but decided to punt two straight seasons (2009, 2010) instead of spending money to win with him, so it would be odd to add another ace for way more money after getting rid of a better one who would have signed for less if the team was competitive.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:56 pm
by Wo1verine
I'd be shocked if we spent more than 65M on one player,tbh. but yeah, CC would be my # 1 target as well.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:09 pm
by JoeyBats
Money wasn't an issue with Roy. He just wanted to play in the post-season.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:41 pm
by HangTime
Is AA willing to give up 1st round pick?

The MLB has got to change it's compensation rule.
This sound fair:

Type-A = 1A + 2A
Type-B = 1A (after all type-A picks)


This way no body has to give up a pick.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:30 pm
by mini
UssjTrunks wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:It would be more than a bit odd to get rid of Roy Halladay and spend way more on another ace a few years later, though.


+1


Yes, but I think that it's fair to say that our rebuild is way more advanced than anyone could have foreseen a few years ago. Bautista/Romero/Lawrie/Morrow/our farm/shedding Wells' deal/etc. have put us back in a position to make moves to contend (I would say 2 years earlier than could have been expected).

Outside of Pujols, CC would be the biggest and most impactful move we could make. Odds of it happening... less than 1%.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:34 am
by dballislife
imo toronto would gladly throw 30 mill at pujols, 25 for cc, or 20 for darvish...just the matter if they choose tor or not

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:31 pm
by Randle McMurphy
CC's opting out tonight...might as well throw all your money at him and see what happens. He'd be a better $100+M investment than Darvish.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:37 pm
by baulderdash77
So he's walking from 4/90 and is looking for Cliff Lee's 5/120 as a starting point, isn't that right?

He's worth it.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:04 am
by Hendrix
Randle McMurphy wrote:CC's opting out tonight...might as well throw all your money at him and see what happens. He'd be a better $100+M investment than Darvish.

I agree with you from a fan standpoint. From an investment-revenue generating standpoint I tihnk Rogers could potentially rather have Darvish no?

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:35 am
by dballislife
cc will probably cost 50 mill more than yu and will be 32 next year, his recent years hasn't even been as gd as romero...with darvish just entering the prime of his pitching years, i'd much rather throw 100-120 at him, he will also attract fans and mite even put up better numbers than cc over the years

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:48 am
by OldNo7
dballislife wrote:his recent years hasn't even been as gd as romero


I'll drink whatever you're drinking, because I don't recall being that effed up in a long time.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:23 pm
by Shimso
Hendrix wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:CC's opting out tonight...might as well throw all your money at him and see what happens. He'd be a better $100+M investment than Darvish.

I agree with you from a fan standpoint. From an investment-revenue generating standpoint I tihnk Rogers could potentially rather have Darvish no?

He's a lower risk investment. You know what you're getting with CC & it sends a message & it instantly knocks NYY down a peg (who'll be their ace if they don't get CJ? Nova?).

I'd rather overpay for CC and sacrifice whatever Darvish's ceiling is and whatever revenue he'll attract because any move that makes your team much stronger right away AND hurts one of your biggest rivals is perfect.

Hell, if Ellsbury were an FA I'd say give him 30M.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:33 pm
by 5DOM
I'm just a casual baseball fan still learning the details, but why is he so damn expensive? I looked at some of his raw stats, but it doesn't look THAT impressive compared to the league leaders.

Re: Blue Jays & Tigers waiting in the wings for CC

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:51 pm
by dagger
As of the weekend, CC hadn't opted out.