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OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:22 pm
by YogiStewart
being leaked on twitter.
stay tuned.
OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:23 pm
by MGD24
Papelbon is no longer in the AL East and becomes the closer the Phillies needed this year.
So I guess that's a good thing for the Jays that Boston is getting weaker.
@JSalisburyCSN:
The Phils and Papelbon have reached agreement sources tell CSNPhilly.com. Pending physical.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/phillies-to-sign-jonathan-papelbon-.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:27 pm
by Relentless88
I think Yogi deleted that thread but for some reason my post is still there.
Anyways, good news for the Jays. Means we aren't signing Papelbon to a terrible contract, and he'll be out of the AL East.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:30 pm
by dagger
Relentless88 wrote:I think Yogi deleted that thread but for some reason my post is still there.
Anyways, good news for the Jays. Means we aren't signing Papelbon to a terrible contract, and he'll be out of the AL East.
So far all it means is that we've done nothing. Darvish looks like he's staying in Japan, and the team is full of excuses - "This one is too hot." "This one is too cold".
No deals beyond X years, no pricey relievers... we're wll on track to paying for Nadir Mohammed's bonus.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:40 pm
by Tuuk
JSalisburyCSN Jim Salisbury
Sources say Papelbon deal is four years and approaches $50 million, pending physical
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:45 pm
by YogiStewart
Relentless88 wrote:I think Yogi deleted that thread but for some reason my post is still there.
Anyways, good news for the Jays. Means we aren't signing Papelbon to a terrible contract, and he'll be out of the AL East.
no, i merged the thread that MGD24 made.
this mean that Madson's a potential Toronto target?
and dagger, i think you're kind of off. I don't see the Jays paying $12 mil/year for a closer. they're probably looking at a top tier closer, but at a slightly lower price and lower duration. and i don't blame them.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:57 pm
by Kapono
WOuld have liked him on the Jays.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:06 pm
by CapeCrusader
Is this 100% final like they claimed Madson was...
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:19 pm
by LBJSeizedMyID
Bad for the Jays, but good at least that he's not in the AL East.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:29 pm
by Avenger
LBJSeizedMyID wrote:Bad for the Jays, but good at least that he's not in the AL East.
bad for the Jays we're not giving out a contract to a reliever that is almost guaranteed to be an albatross?
dagger wrote:So far all it means is that we've done nothing. Darvish looks like he's staying in Japan, and the team is full of excuses - "This one is too hot." "This one is too cold".
No deals beyond X years, no pricey relievers... we're wll on track to paying for Nadir Mohammed's bonus.
if doing nothing means not giving out crazy deals that will hurt the team than i hope we do nothing all off season.
As for the Phillies it might seem crazy to call them misguided after all the success they've had but sooner or later these bad moves will add up and having Lee and Halladay is not gonna mean anything when you have like 50 million in dead weight on your payroll every year.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:32 pm
by LBJSeizedMyID
So says you.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:34 pm
by LBJSeizedMyID
Avenger wrote:
As for the Phillies it might seem crazy to call them misguided after all the success they've had but sooner or later these bad moves will add up and having Lee and Halladay is not gonna mean anything when you have like 50 million in dead weight on your payroll.
And sooner or later you can say I told you so!
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:36 pm
by Avenger
LBJSeizedMyID wrote:So says you.
no look at the track record of relievers getting multi year deals, there's Rivera and there's everybody else. I'd put the odds at like 85-90% that Papelbon never lives up to that deal.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:38 pm
by LBJSeizedMyID
There are only a handful of closers I'd give Mariano type money to. Papelbon as much as I'm not a fan of him...is one of them.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:47 pm
by mikero
Word is that there may also be a vesting option to push the deal over 60 million.
If I were the Phillies, I'd be more concerned with extending Hamels contract and finding a SS. They better have more money to spend.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:00 pm
by Relentless88
The deal includes a vesting option that could take it beyond $60 million for the 30-year-old, the source said.
If finalized, the contract would be the largest total package ever signed by a relief pitcher. The previous high was the five-year, $47 million deal signed by B.J. Ryan with Toronto in December 2005.
The $12.5 million average annual value of the deal would be tied for the second-highest ever signed by a reliever.
Mariano Rivera's $15 million a year, in each of his last two contracts, ranks No. 1.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:03 pm
by s e n s i
LOL ridiculous. only way papelbon lives up to that contract is if he pitches lights out for the next few years while hitting like 30 home runs in the process, leading the phillies to a world series.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:38 pm
by Michael Bradley
Ruben Amaro should never be allowed to deal with contracts. The only reason the Phillies aren't in worse shape financially is because Halladay took a massive discount to extend with them.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:44 pm
by vaff87
At least Ruben Amaro running the Phillies into the ground increases the odds of Halladay returning to the Jays to end his career.
Re: OT: Papelbon signs with Phillies
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:00 pm
by g_greg
Amaro: "Wait, guys, wait. You're telling me that we can get Papelbon for only 6 million more? Where do I sign????"