Frankie Francisco appreciation thread

dagger · Post #1 » by **dagger** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:11 am

Gone to the Mets for 2 yr/$12 million.

Phew, Rogers dodged a bullet there.

Rauch and Francisco go on the same night... to the same team... epic.

I guess the Mets never watched a Jays' game.

WpgPage · Post #2 » by **WpgPage** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:19 am

Frankie Frank 2 years 12 mil
Santos 3 years 8.75.......

That contract is worth a prospect itself.

SharoneWright · Post #3 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:29 am

Taco / Heartburn.

Hand / Glove.

gl w/ mets.

redraptors · Post #4 » by **redraptors** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:30 am

that means we get two picks from the mets next year??

LBJSeizedMyID · Post #5 » by **LBJSeizedMyID** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:33 am

Francisco should do much better in a more pitcher friendly park and in the National League.

CapeCrusader · Post #6 » by **CapeCrusader** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:38 am

Thank you Riccardi!!!

Post #7 » by **Schad** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:06 am

redraptors wrote:that means we get two picks from the mets next year??

Not from the Mets...two picks are created out of thin air for us.

dagger · Post #8 » by **dagger** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:08 am

RGriffinStar
Mets buy high in Rauch and Francisco. Nice. Is Bernie Madoff still handling their investment portfolio??

redraptors · Post #9 » by **redraptors** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:09 am

oh okay so we get one for Rauch two for Fran and tonight we hear about kelly johnson??

Post #10 » by **Schad** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:13 am

redraptors wrote:oh okay so we get one for Rauch two for Fran and tonight we hear about kelly johnson??

One for each of Rauch and Francisco, two total...they'll be in the sandwich round immediately following the first round.

SharoneWright · Post #11 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:14 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
redraptors wrote:oh okay so we get one for Rauch two for Fran and tonight we hear about kelly johnson??

One for each of Rauch and Francisco, two total...they'll be in the sandwich round immediately following the first round.

Our draft cap should be increased based on the number of sandwich picks we gain?

Kurtz · Post #12 » by **Kurtz** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:14 am

Can we expect Santos to be a significant improvement on Francisco?

redraptors · Post #13 » by **redraptors** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:16 am

Thanks, sounds good. Add a few prospect next year. Kelly Johnson will be cleared up tonight. What are the chances one of the teams that are after Puljos trade for Lind if jays are serious about Fielder?

I like the trade they pulled off and adding two more picks and figuring out 2nd base will be the next big thing

Kurtz · Post #14 » by **Kurtz** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:25 am

Interesting fact. After letting go of Franciso, we've now rid ourselves of 7 of our top 10 highest paid players from last season.

I believe Mathis is now our 7th highest paid player.

I would say that this puts us roughly within 3-4 mil of the Pirates payroll.

Randle McMurphy · Post #15 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 6:38 am

Kurtz wrote:Interesting fact. After letting go of Franciso, we've now rid ourselves of 7 of our top 10 highest paid players from last season.

I believe Mathis is now our 7th highest paid player.

I would say that this puts us roughly within 3-4 mil of the Pirates payroll.

I like how Teahen is our 2nd highest paid player.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key ... utput=html

number15 · Post #16 » by **number15** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 6:47 am

Why not have just resigned Francisco. He was solid and at 12 million for 2 years seems reasonable. He will be solid for the Mets. Jays shoulda kept him at that price. He wouldst fined out the bullpen.

Mak · Post #17 » by **Mak** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 6:48 am

Kurtz wrote:Interesting fact. After letting go of Franciso, we've now rid ourselves of 7 of our top 10 highest paid players from last season.

I believe Mathis is now our 7th highest paid player.

I would say that this puts us roughly within 3-4 mil of the Pirates payroll.

It looks like we still have a lot of players to sign. Is that the case, are all of these players without a contract?

Janssen, Casey
Morrow, Brandon
Mathis, Jeff
Villanueva, Carlos
Litsch, Jesse
Chavez, Jesse
Valbuena, Luis
McGowan, Dustin
Cecil, Brett
Rasmus, Colby
Snider, Travis
McCoy, Mike
Arencibia, J.P.
Drabek, Kyle
Alvarez, Henderson
Beck, Chad
Carreno, Joel
Cooper, David
Farina, Alan
Farquhar, Danny
Jeroloman, Brian
Kimball, Cole
Lawrie, Brett
Magnuson, Trystan
Mastroianni, Darin
Perez, Luis
Sierra, Moises
Thames, Eric

ItsDanger · Post #18 » by **ItsDanger** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 6:49 am

Not sorry to see him go especially at that price tag. He isnt closer material.

Skin Blues · Post #19 » by **Skin Blues** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:10 am

I don't understand the dislike for Frankie. He's got great stuff, a great track record, and had a pretty good year. Dealt with injuries and had a rough patch but he's a damn good pitcher. Jeez, you throw one chair and your reputation is out the window...

WpgPage · Post #20 » by **WpgPage** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:26 am

Mak wrote:
Kurtz wrote:Interesting fact. After letting go of Franciso, we've now rid ourselves of 7 of our top 10 highest paid players from last season.

I believe Mathis is now our 7th highest paid player.

I would say that this puts us roughly within 3-4 mil of the Pirates payroll.

It looks like we still have a lot of players to sign. Is that the case, are all of these players without a contract?

Janssen, Casey
Morrow, Brandon
Mathis, Jeff
Villanueva, Carlos
Litsch, Jesse
Chavez, Jesse
Valbuena, Luis
McGowan, Dustin
Cecil, Brett
Rasmus, Colby
Snider, Travis
McCoy, Mike
Arencibia, J.P.
Drabek, Kyle
Alvarez, Henderson
Beck, Chad
Carreno, Joel
Cooper, David
Farina, Alan
Farquhar, Danny
Jeroloman, Brian
Kimball, Cole
Lawrie, Brett
Magnuson, Trystan
Mastroianni, Darin
Perez, Luis
Sierra, Moises
Thames, Eric

Many of those guys are still pre arb so 450k for them
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key ... utput=html

anyone with arb 1 or a blank box in the 2013 column is pre arb