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Yu Darvish: Winning Bid To Be Announced Mon 8-9PM
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:55 am
by Kapono
Let the bidding commence.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:57 am
by satyr9
If you're gonna start the thread, please bring a link or a tweet quoted or something. Thanks for the head's up though, just saying it would've been great to click in and get directed to the evidence.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:59 am
by baulderdash77
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:03 am
by hyper316
if we dont get fielder, please please please get darvish!
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:06 am
by baulderdash77
This is our guy IMO. I think we've been waiting for Darvish.
We may not like the system, but we really like not giving up a 1st round pick or any prospects for a bonafide #1/#2 starter in his mid 20's.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:07 am
by jim todd
hyper316 wrote:if we dont get fielder, please please please get darvish!
or perhaps BOTH?
(it's fun to dream)
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:07 am
by Al_Oliver
good call. hope you're right
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:09 am
by dballislife
the winning big will be 65 million, a lot of teams want this guy, a lot
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:11 am
by baulderdash77
The other thing about Darvish is that we can argue around the "Jose Cap". It actually is a real issue with the team.
We don't really want to pay anyone more than the $14 million Jose is making because that kind of thing can wreck the team harmony. If Jose is our best player, he's the best paid and everyone knows it.
If we pay $50 million for Darvish and then sign him to a 5/$50 contract then he's only our 2nd highest paid player. The expectation is that he should be our 2nd or 3rd best player so we're not internally inconsistent.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:11 am
by Garmfay
$65 Million + Bid AA. Don't do some stupid calculating Bid cause the Yanks gonna do something like $60 mill. Yu Darvish 2012
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:12 am
by Michael Bradley
If Rogers agrees to pay $100+ million to a pitcher that has never pitched in the Majors, I'd be very shocked. They would have to be convinced that Darvish will bring enough revenue back over time to make it worthwhile. But yes, Darvish seems like the type of player AA would target as his upside (according to some) is a front of the rotation starter and if they win the bid they won't be competing with anyone for his services. Just depends on the cost and how much AA/Beeston/Rogers are willing to pay.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:35 am
by spykelee
Like you MB, I'd be shocked if the jays went after him. After listening to AA's parameters speeches of the last few days, I think incremental increases are possible but I doubt very much that we'll be in full steam ahead on this guy.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:50 am
by Hendrix
baulderdash77 wrote:We don't really want to pay anyone more than the $14 million Jose is making because that kind of thing can wreck the team harmony. If Jose is our best player, he's the best paid and everyone knows it.
This doesn't make any sense at all.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:52 am
by Strav
Hendrix wrote:baulderdash77 wrote:We don't really want to pay anyone more than the $14 million Jose is making because that kind of thing can wreck the team harmony. If Jose is our best player, he's the best paid and everyone knows it.
This doesn't make any sense at all.
yep.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:02 am
by Trilogy
I don't think we'll get him, but I really hope we do.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:03 am
by Schad
Hendrix wrote:baulderdash77 wrote:We don't really want to pay anyone more than the $14 million Jose is making because that kind of thing can wreck the team harmony. If Jose is our best player, he's the best paid and everyone knows it.
This doesn't make any sense at all.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:09 am
by CapeCrusader
I know we have been linked to him and all. But I have a hard time seeing us paying a guy (even with his potential) all this money, when he hasn't played a single game in the majors.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:13 am
by baulderdash77
It does make sense.
Players take a look around the room and jealousies are in fact built up over salaries. The simple fact is that teams generally have a pecking order and salary goes into it. It happens in every sport and if you have major disparate salaries & performances it can and will cause disharmony in the locker room.
If we signed a guy like say Mark Burhle for $14 million per season right now. How is that going to effect extension negotiations with Brandon Morrow? Morrow is going to be gauging his performance to Burhle's and then he'll want similar money if he outperforms him. How is that going to sit with Rickey Romero knowing that he's the #3 paid player.
How about if we signed Ortiz for $15 million the season after Jose just signed an extension. Now if we signed Fielder to $20 million per season. How is that going to sit with Jose?
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:30 am
by darth_federer
Jose doesnt care man. He just wants the team to get better.
Re: Yu Darvish has been posted
Posted: Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:32 am
by Parataxis
CapeCrusader wrote:I know we have been linked to him and all. But I have a hard time seeing us paying a guy (even with his potential) all this money, when he hasn't played a single game in the majors.
We're not paying him all that money. He'll probably be making 5-10/season. The posting money doesn't go to him, it' goes to Nippon-Ham.