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Yet, the Jays bid more than $51.1 million for the negotiating rights, according to reports from Japan ... and didn’t know if they were high man in the poker game.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/19/wi ... e-too-high

Talk about nickel and diming. We really did C@@p the bed it seems.

baulderdash77 wrote:

Yet, the Jays bid more than $51.1 million for the negotiating rights, according to reports from Japan ... and didn’t know if they were high man in the poker game.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/19/wi ... e-too-high

Talk about nickel and diming. We really did C@@p the bed it seems.

Do you seriously not understand how a **** blind auction works? There's no "nickel and diming" when putting in a bid where you have no **** idea what anyone else has bid. And no, $51m+ is not, in any universe, nickel-and-diming **** to begin with.

baulderdash77 wrote:

Yet, the Jays bid more than $51.1 million for the negotiating rights, according to reports from Japan ... and didn’t know if they were high man in the poker game.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/19/wi ... e-too-high

Talk about nickel and diming. We really did C@@p the bed it seems.

how the **** is this nickel and diming? They put in 51 **** million in a blind auction?

So we know we have money. Now give it to Fielder instead. He's more worth it anyway.

This report is as bull as the previous tweets.

Selig only gives Japan one bid, the top one.

Japanese sources wouldn't know jack **** about a 2nd highest bid. The only ones who know what the Jays bid are North Americans.

BLIND Auction.

Schadenfreude wrote:

baulderdash77 wrote:

Yet, the Jays bid more than $51.1 million for the negotiating rights, according to reports from Japan ... and didn’t know if they were high man in the poker game.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/19/wi ... e-too-high

Talk about nickel and diming. We really did C@@p the bed it seems.

Do you seriously not understand how a **** blind auction works? There's no "nickel and diming" when putting in a bid where you have no **** idea what anyone else has bid. And no, $51m+ is not, in any universe, nickel-and-diming **** to begin with.

This is called damage control.

Rogers knew what was coming. There is no way that they bid 51.1+ for Darvish. Sorry, NO WAY.

Sure it was a blind auction, but I have 0 faith in Rogers, the Blue Jays, or AA. We all got had. And whats worse, now Rogers is sending out the minions to defend the evil empire. It's pretty easy to say after losing "Oh yeah, we bid 51.6999999999999 million dollars, CAN'T BELIEVE WE DIDN'T WIN." This has Rogers spin and stink all over it. I really hope that the majority of Jays Fans don't buy this crap that's being spewed.

That's nothing but speculation. All we know is that Texas had the high bid.

Based on what we know about Rogers, we'd be foolish to assume they did anything other than cheap out.

torontoaces04 wrote:This is called damage control.

Rogers knew what was coming. There is no way that they bid 51.1+ for Darvish. Sorry, NO WAY.

Sure it was a blind auction, but I have 0 faith in Rogers, the Blue Jays, or AA. We all got had. And whats worse, now Rogers is sending out the minions to defend the evil empire. It's pretty easy to say after losing "Oh yeah, we bid 51.6999999999999 million dollars, CAN'T BELIEVE WE DIDN'T WIN." This has Rogers spin and stink all over it. I really hope that the majority of Jays Fans don't buy this crap that's being spewed.

Ah, yes. It's all a conspiracy.

darth_federer wrote:BLIND Auction.

BLIND faith.

losing a game by 1 is still losing.

Time to move on, there many other things in the Jays system worth to cheer for.

Schadenfreude wrote:

torontoaces04 wrote:This is called damage control.

Rogers knew what was coming. There is no way that they bid 51.1+ for Darvish. Sorry, NO WAY.

Sure it was a blind auction, but I have 0 faith in Rogers, the Blue Jays, or AA. We all got had. And whats worse, now Rogers is sending out the minions to defend the evil empire. It's pretty easy to say after losing "Oh yeah, we bid 51.6999999999999 million dollars, CAN'T BELIEVE WE DIDN'T WIN." This has Rogers spin and stink all over it. I really hope that the majority of Jays Fans don't buy this crap that's being spewed.

Ah, yes. It's all a conspiracy.

Sorry that I'm not going to drink the Kool-Aid.

You're going to have to drink the whole pitcher of juice to yourself.....Oh, maybe DarthFed might split some of it with you.

Schadenfreude wrote:Ah, yes. It's all a conspiracy.

No, just common sense.

We have no way to know what Rogers' bid was unless they come out and say it (and to be honest, then I might begin the conspiracy theory talk). All we know is that Rogers has a history of being a notoriously cheap owner.

Based on what we know, the sensible conclusion is that they cheaped out.

Or, as others have said, we can drink the kool-aid, have blind faith, etc etc.

torontoaces04 wrote:There is no way that they bid 51.1+ for Darvish. Sorry, NO WAY.

Why? The reports the entire time was that our bid was huge. $50+ million is huge. The reality is that after the Red Sox outbid themselves by about $10 million for Matsuzaka it was likely that no one was going to bid way over the $51 million that was spent there; and the result you see is two teams who both barely bid over that amount.

I think it's funny that the Jays matched a past record bid of Dice K's and people still find a reason to be mad about it. If the bid numbers are true I'm actually kind of impressed we bid that much, wasn't really expecting a bid close to that.

gei wrote:Based on what we know, the sensible conclusion is that they cheaped out.

They cheaped out? What does that make the owners of about ~26 other clubs who didn't even freaking put in a bid?

-MetA4- wrote:

torontoaces04 wrote:There is no way that they bid 51.1+ for Darvish. Sorry, NO WAY.

Why? The reports the entire time was that our bid was huge. $50+ million is huge. The reality is that after the Red Sox outbid themselves by about $10 million for Matsuzaka it was likely that no one was going to bid way over the $51 million that was spent there; and the result you see is two teams who both barely bid over that amount.

Actually, no. No, my friend, no. No no no. Looks like you've fallen for a red herring.

The report was that there was one huge bid that blew away the rest, and its amount thrilled the Ham Fighters.

The speculation was then that the bid came from the Jays, as they are offcourse a super rich team, and it'd make sense for them to get YU.

As it turned out, that big bidder mystery team was Texas. Jays had nothing to do with it. Innocent to the last man.

I love how the second highest bid in history is nickel and diming.

Kurtz wrote:Actually, no. No, my friend, no. No no no. Looks like you've fallen for a red herring.

The report was that there was one huge bid that blew away the rest, and its amount thrilled the Ham Fighters.

There were numerous sources on both sides that had both the Jays AND the Rangers as being the ones with the "huge bid". Using common sense; that could easily suggest that both sides were right and BOTH teams made "huge" bids; it just so happened that one was bigger than the other.

The complete silence and NON-DENIAL by ANYONE Toronto related over these past 4-5 days strongly suggest that we absolutely though we had a bid that we thought could be the winner. Us being only a few hundred thousand dollars off would explain why no one stepped out and calmed expectations. We legitimately thought we could have been the winner.

BigLeagueChew wrote:I think it's funny that the Jays matched a past record bid of Dice K's and people still find a reason to be mad about it. If the bid numbers are true I'm actually kind of impressed we bid that much, wasn't really expecting a bid close to that.

I think it's funny that you believe the Jays matched the Dice-K offer.

This is why we will never win. 11 yrs of the status quo. Here to 11yrs more of meaningless games.