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Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league play
Posted: Wed Mar 7, 2012 5:39 pm
by RocLaFamilia
The Blue Jays are hopeful the addition of advance scout Kevin Cash will help improve the club's woeful record in Interleague Play.
Toronto is just 123-142 (.464) during Interleague Play in franchise history. The only clubs in the American League with worse records are Tampa Bay, Baltimore and Kansas City.
It's an area that the Blue Jays feel can be improved with the addition of another scout. Cash, a former catcher, will be tasked with taking a first-hand look at some of the National League clubs to better prepare Toronto for those matchups.
http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news/ar ... r&c_id=tor
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Wed Mar 7, 2012 7:34 pm
by satyr9
I hope so. Our brutal inter-league record is what usually signals the beginning of the end of every season for me. It's always like if we could just go 7-5 or better on the road portion we'd be right in it and instead we go 3-9 and are close to being 5+ out already. It's probably why I don't like inter-league in general without even knowing it. It's usually the death knell to a Jays season.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Wed Mar 7, 2012 8:28 pm
by g.muresan
"Suffer in silence"
Anybody remember the off season training mantra that he, Doc, Hentgen etc. subscribed to? In 2004 when Doc's arm died?
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Wed Mar 7, 2012 9:41 pm
by SharoneWright
The Cashman!!! Oh yeah!
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Thu Mar 8, 2012 12:48 am
by spykelee
SharoneWright wrote:The Cashman!!! Oh yeah!
In all seriousness, we need a lot of help in interleague play, the fact the jays are doing something, anything to try and improve that is good in my books.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:25 am
by CapeCrusader
I'm all up for trying to improve out inter league play. But how good is Kevin Cash? I mean we all know how he was as a player, so I'm not going to get exited with him as a scout.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:42 am
by Kaizen
Many scouts were never good players, which is why they are scouts, so I do not understand why you care about his playing ability now.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Thu Mar 8, 2012 3:24 am
by SharoneWright
CapeCrusader wrote:I'm all up for trying to improve out inter league play. But how good is Kevin Cash? I mean we all know how he was as a player, so I'm not going to get exited with him as a scout.
Well, Farrell was a pretty crappy pitcher,,, sooooo.... !/?
lol.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Thu Mar 8, 2012 3:25 am
by flatjacket1
CapeCrusader wrote:I'm all up for trying to improve out inter league play. But how good is Kevin Cash? I mean we all know how he was as a player, so I'm not going to get exited with him as a scout.
I'm willing to bet AA is a terrible baseball player.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Thu Mar 8, 2012 6:05 am
by CapeCrusader
Maybe you guys should re-read what i posted. It's not out of the question that....I dunno, maybe he's not suited for the job and I dunno....maybe somebody else is better for it?
I'm asking a simple question, if I knew he was a good or bad scout then I wouldn't of asked the question.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:56 pm
by ahollz
CapeCrusader wrote:Maybe you guys should re-read what i posted. It's not out of the question that....I dunno, maybe he's not suited for the job and I dunno....maybe somebody else is better for it?
I'm asking a simple question, if I knew he was a good or bad scout then I wouldn't of asked the question.
Well, how would any of us know? Baseball is more than physical limitations: it's a mind game too. That's why you see so many baseball lifers get a second chance at the show as a coach or in an administrative position.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:10 am
by CapeCrusader
By experience. There's scouts that have been doing it for years and have scouted some talented and not so talented players. He might have an eye for talent, he might not. I have no idea, and maybe you guys don't either. But that was the reason I asked in the first place.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Fri Mar 9, 2012 5:56 am
by Raps in 4
We didn't bring him in to scout talent, but to scout our interleague opponents.
On the topic of needing physical talent to be a scout or coach or anything, that's preposterous. Most of the best minds in sports were terrible players.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Fri Mar 9, 2012 6:06 pm
by CapeCrusader
Wow lol
All I asked was if the man was good at his job. Not out of the question that teams have hired somebody that wasn't right for the job. I'm just going to leave this topic, cuz its dead and not worth getting into anymore.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:02 am
by Sifu
Nowadays, we capture a lot of stats that is put into a database and viewable by anyone. For example, you can get data on what types of pitches and locations that hitters hit most often. You can see stats on how frequent pitchers throw fastballs, curves, sliders etc... and to conduct datamining to see if pitchers have a tendency to throw fastballs first, or change-ups typically follow a fastball 80% of the time etc...
So, i wonder if teams utilize this data, maybe by employing a person or two full time to produce scouting reports based on actual stats to augment scouting reports produced by the advance scouts.
Re: Jays hire advanced scout (Kevin Cash) for inter-league p
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:43 pm
by flatjacket1
Sifu wrote:Nowadays, we capture a lot of stats that is put into a database and viewable by anyone. For example, you can get data on what types of pitches and locations that hitters hit most often. You can see stats on how frequent pitchers throw fastballs, curves, sliders etc... and to conduct datamining to see if pitchers have a tendency to throw fastballs first, or change-ups typically follow a fastball 80% of the time etc...
So, i wonder if teams utilize this data, maybe by employing a person or two full time to produce scouting reports based on actual stats to augment scouting reports produced by the advance scouts.
Most teams (even old fashioned Baltimore) have these people. Once they gave a job offer to Fangraphs for the community to apply.