Cecil demoted to AA, Careno recalled, Laffey to Vegas

[YogiStewart]

as per Shi Davidi's tweet

Shi Davidi ‏
Cecil optioned to double-A, Carreno recalled, Laffey to Vegas

[Wo1verine]

Cool man! I Can't stand soft tossers! Carreno brings another power arm to the team.

[Kaizen]

Fantastic news.

[raptorforlife88]

Thankful that it's not Laffey up. Carreno's a solid choice, although I think they still have him pegged for the bullpen in the long term. Guess they wants to get Hutchison/Jenkins more time in the minors before giving them a shot.

It's nice to see that the front office is not willing to just throw away games by having a guaranteed loss pitching out there for a week or two.

[kungriffey]

All the way down to AA ...wow. Whats the scouting report on Carreno?

[Kaizen]

Thankful that it's not Laffey up. Carreno's a solid choice, although I think they still have him pegged for the bullpen in the long term. Guess they wants to get Hutchison/Jenkins more time in the minors before giving them a shot.

It's nice to see that the front office is not willing to just throw away games by having a guaranteed loss pitching out there for a week or two.

This is how I feel. This had to be done though I was surprised to see Cecil was 3-1. I think that is an example where win-loss records do not reflect how you are playing.

[Jatt]

Who: Joel Carreno, No. 34. Right-handed pitcher, role to be defined. 6-foot, 190 pounds. 25 years old.

Provenance: San Cristobal, Dominican Republic. Signed as an amateur free agent in 2004 by the Blue Jays.

2011 Stats: 1.15 ERA, 0.96 WHIP, 14 strikeouts and four walks in 15.2 innings over 11 games with the Blue Jays. 3.41 ERA at Double-A New Hampshire in 24 games, including 23 starts. 152 strikeouts in 134.2 innings.

Looking Back: Up until last season, Carreno had taken a fairly deliberate route through the Jays' system, bumping up a level per season over five years. But a bullpen made sparse by trades, injuries and performance issues led to his unexpected summoning to the big club in late August of last season.

Carreno pitched very effectively out of the bullpen, giving up just two earned runs and 11 hits along the way. He has a fairly limited repertoire, working with a 91.5 m.p.h. fastball (41.6 per cent of his pitches) and breaking balls (52.9 per cent) which in some cases are categorized as curveballs, and sometimes sliders. We'd always heard that he threw the latter, so maybe a more extensive look will help to determine exactly what is coming out of his hand.

Like teammate Henderson Alvarez, Carreno has a tightly coiled delivery, with lots of tight movement on his pitches. Though we only got a brief look at him, he never seemed particularly outclassed, though he did get a lot of work in September against some weaker lineups.

Carreno also had some control problems in New Hampshire, walking 4.5 batters per nine. Though he didn't show that propensity often while with the Jays, there were moments where he was ducking and diving around the zone.

More
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2012/0 ... l_carreno/

[Modern_epic]

All the way down to AA ...wow. Whats the scouting report on Carreno?

If you take a look at the depth chart, the seem hesitant to put anyone with a future in Vegas. I imagine this is especially true of anyone who needs to work on breaking stuff.

[Michael Bradley]

Wow. Great news. I was dreading the thought of seeing Cecil or Laffey play the role of Eveland/Reyes from prior seasons, but it looks like the Jays are finally serious about not giving away wins early in the season anymore. Not that Carreno is a stud or anything, but he has a hell of a lot more upside than Cecil or Laffey.

Romero-Morrow-Alvarez-Drabek-Carreno with McGowan waiting in the wings is probably the best rotation the Jays could have put together internally to start the year. Not a very established group, outside of Romero, but I'll take it over the alternatives.

Very happy with this decision.

[hyper316]

Wow, AA isn't fooling around. No more jo-jo reyes experiments. I love our GM.

I'm surprised it is not hutchison. Carreno is goo too, so I am happy

[Relentless88]

This is pretty surprising. I thought Cecil was definitely going to start the season in the rotation.

I agree with the above though, I'm glad they're not planning to throw away any games like last season with the JoJo show.

[kungriffey]

All the way down to AA ...wow. Whats the scouting report on Carreno?

If you take a look at the depth chart, the seem hesitant to put anyone with a future in Vegas. I imagine this is especially true of anyone who needs to work on breaking stuff.

..just took a look at the charts for vegas. You're right it's pretty bare :\
Chad Beck
Randy Boone
Andrew Carpenter
Jesse Chavez
Robert Coello
Jerry Gil
Jim Hoey
Scott Richmond

[Anatomize]

Last year was an experimental season for AA in getting a feel out process for our team and new coach.

After spring training and with the type of talent we've brought up, there is no chance we can sit around with a 'wait-and-see' approach for certain players; before long, you'll lose enough ball games that you're sitting around a .500 type team or worse due to those anchors weighing you down. You have to make immediate moves without regrets to compete with the likes of our division.

Additionally, it seems more clear cut this year who the poor players are due to the outstanding cast of talent.

[Al_Oliver]

Bring on Killa Carreno

[-MetA4-]

I'm surprised it is not hutchison.

Shouldn't be surprising at all. Hutchison has made 3 starts above A-ball; it is way too soon.

[LBJSeizedMyID]

Hutch was never and shouldn't have been a consideration for the big club. Still don't like Carreno being up so soon, but at this point the Jays know he is an effective bullpen arm and could see him playing a Carlos Villanueva type role even.

[SharoneWright]

Maybe Cecil needs to bulk back up....

[ItsDanger]

Great move. Having Cecil start the season would have cost us 5 from our win total before everyone accepted the reality he sucks now. He was sent to AA, because his stats in Las Vegas would have totally demoralized him beyond the current state.

[Hendrix]

As others have said, it's nice to see the club is not going to just throw games away.

Hutch was never and shouldn't have been a consideration for the big club. Still don't like Carreno being up so soon, but at this point the Jays know he is an effective bullpen arm and could see him playing a Carlos Villanueva type role even.

Why? He's pitched over 500 innings over 5 years in the minors, played up to AA, is 24y/o, and has already had a taste of the big leagues. I don't think pitching another 100 innings, or going to Vegas would really make much difference.

[ItsDanger]

A lot of guys only go 5-6 innings these days anyways. Rosters have deep bullpens to close the gaps.