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Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:05 pm
by J.Kim
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.ph ... 9-toronto/

9th
Toronto’s 2011 Ranking: 8th
2012 Outlook: 52 (15th)
2013+ Outlook: 60 (5th, tied)
Financial Resources: 50 (14th, tied)
Baseball Operations: 64 (2nd, tied)
Overall: 54 (9th)

The Toronto Blue Jays organization has most of the pieces necessary to not only field a playoff-caliber team but to also build a dynasty if it plays its cards well. The minor league system is strong and should be able to sustain a steady stream of talent, although the new restraints on acquiring amateur talent will offer a challenge to the club. The organization also has stable ownership and, theoretically, the money necessary to acquire some star talent to supplement those currently on the 25-man roster.

Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:42 pm
by Kapono
Financial Resources should be lower than 14th.

Ownership having money is one thing, ownership spending money is another thing.

Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:48 pm
by LBJSeizedMyID
Blah blah blah. Enough about ownership.

Ninth seems to be the number on a lot of sites organizational/power rankings.

Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2012 4:51 pm
by Wo1verine
"Financial Resources should be lower than 14th."
I think you're right, Kapono

Everything else seems alright.

Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2012 5:56 pm
by Hendrix
Financial resources may be a bit off, but I don't think it's all that much if it is.

Since Rogers bought the Jays they've had been 17.7th in the league on average in payroll. That's slightly below 14th; however, there has been talks over the last couple years about spending a lot more money if AA can put a contender together. That seems like a decent reason to push them from the 17-18 slot up to 14, no?

Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2012 6:04 pm
by Hamyltowne
Baseball Prospectus has us at 2nd.

Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2012 6:12 pm
by J.Kim
Hamyltowne wrote:Baseball Prospectus has us at 2nd.


BP's is for farm system. FG takes everything into account including current and future outlook, financial resources and baseball operations.

Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2012 6:21 pm
by Hamyltowne
J.Kim wrote:
Hamyltowne wrote:Baseball Prospectus has us at 2nd.


BP's is for farm system. FG takes everything into account including current and future outlook, financial resources and baseball operations.

Thought you might say that. Unless one is an ambitious mananger in Human Resources, the most important criterion would be the farm-system. It, more than anything, will stand us in good stead.

Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:17 pm
by Graham's Cracker
Hamyltowne wrote:
J.Kim wrote:
Hamyltowne wrote:Baseball Prospectus has us at 2nd.


BP's is for farm system. FG takes everything into account including current and future outlook, financial resources and baseball operations.

Thought you might say that. Unless one is an ambitious mananger in Human Resources, the most important criterion would be the farm-system. It, more than anything, will stand us in good stead.


What about the Expos? They had a great farm system but failed in the other areas.

Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Fri Apr 6, 2012 5:04 pm
by Hamyltowne
Graham's Cracker wrote:What about the Expos? They had a great farm system but failed in the other areas.

This is a very good question. I don't know enough about the Expos to comment. Perhaps some of the older members can speak to this.

I'd like to know. Very curious.

Re: Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Fri Apr 6, 2012 5:13 pm
by Raps in 4
Hamyltowne wrote:
J.Kim wrote:
Hamyltowne wrote:Baseball Prospectus has us at 2nd.


BP's is for farm system. FG takes everything into account including current and future outlook, financial resources and baseball operations.

Thought you might say that. Unless one is an ambitious mananger in Human Resources, the most important criterion would be the farm-system. It, more than anything, will stand us in good stead.


Harry Palmer?

Re: Re: Fangraphs Organizational Rankings

Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2012 10:27 pm
by Hamyltowne
UssjTrunks wrote:
Hamyltowne wrote:Unless one is an ambitious mananger in Human Resources, the most important criterion would be the farm-system.


Harry Palmer?

What?