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Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:53 am
by Hendy15
So not too much has been made of this, but what happened in the bottom of the 16th? I can't seem to find much info on this. It was just another odd situation that occurred in extra innings that makes you wonder (ie. davis' botched bunt and Arencibias missed sign). This Instance, however, seems to have been lost in all the hoopla in all the game recaps.

One of our prized acquisitions was all set up to close the game and had to embarrassingly jog back into the bullpen. Sergio seemed flustered, and not surprisingly walked his first batter I believe, and Farrell seemed a little perturbed at what transpired. He was out quickly to rectify the situation after Perez got the first out, but my question is what do you think happened?

Everyone and their grandmother thought that Santos was coming in for the bottom half, and considering the fact that Farrell openly admitted to mishandling the bullpen and specifically the closer situation last year, I'd say it wasn't the best of starts with out new closer. My guess is that he wanted to see if Perez could make an out or two, as he didn't want to bring in his final arm unless they got a baserunner.

Nevertheless, I pesonally think that since he was staked a 3 run lead, you let your big arm go out there and show us why we got him. Thankfully Sergio closed it off after an awkard situation and hopefully this was one of the first things addressed after the game.

So what happened? Does anyone know? I assume it's poor communication between the bench and the bullpen. Has this been addressed in the media at all? Farrell obviously knew what he wanted to to, but the 'pen seemed unaware.

As I said, thankfully it all worked out, and the media hasn't blown it out of proportion, but WOW, did that seem awkward and hopefully it's water under the bridge.

Go Jays!

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:12 am
by vaff87
Luis Perez left the dugout to go out and pitch the 16th when he wasn't supposed to, and once he crossed the foul line, he had to face a batter. New rule this year.

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:26 am
by Kapono
Luis Perez costed me a save in FBB. Thats what happened.

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:47 am
by Hendy15
Ahh, so that's what happened. What the hell was he doing then? No one told him? Makes me feel a little better, but still unacceptable. He's got to know his night's done....

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:49 am
by BigLeagueChew
one of these options:

a) Perez went out without being told he was done
b) Everyone but Perez knew Santos was coming in next, Farrell doesn't need to tell him
c) Farrell told him he was done but he went out anyways :lol:

Hopefully we find out more during Saturdays game.

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 12:49 pm
by augustine
I read an article stating that Perez was trying to buy time to get santos ready. Not sure how exactly.

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 12:49 pm
by augustine
I read an article stating that Perez was trying to buy time to get santos ready. Not sure how exactly.

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 12:59 pm
by Dr. Nick
^^ yeah that doesnt make any sense. Plus you could tell that Farrel was really pissed off.

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:00 pm
by WpgPage
Sometimes to slow down the inning change a pitcher would go out walk towards the mound then the manager would call him back and send in the new pitcher, could waist a good minute out there giving the guy more time. That would be my guess as to what happened.

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:30 pm
by SharoneWright
I think there's a very good chance, that in the euphoria of JPA's HR, no one told him not to go back out. Everyone hi-5's, Farrell calls the pen, and its all just assumed. You'd have to think the pitching coach, or Perez himself would ask what he's supposed to be doing before he heads out again though...

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:01 pm
by Parataxis
WpgPage wrote:Sometimes to slow down the inning change a pitcher would go out walk towards the mound then the manager would call him back and send in the new pitcher, could waist a good minute out there giving the guy more time. That would be my guess as to what happened.


That's exactly why they instituted the rule, I'd imagine.

Re: Sergio Santos vs. John Farrell - 16th inning

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:05 pm
by Skin Blues
Yup, the Joe Maddon Rule. Last year he had Sam Fuld go out there and warm up, and then changed pitchers before Fuld faced any batters (since he's an outfielder, not a pitcher). Now if you send a pitcher to the mound to start an inning, he has to face a batter.