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"Leaders in no-hit scares" with Blue Jays Connections
Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:44 am
by V][/V§@Ñ!TÝ
From ESPN:
After Saturday's performances against each other, Ubaldo Jimenez and Brandon Morrow have each taken seven no-hit bids into at least the fifth inning since the start of the 2010 season. They are the only two pitchers in the majors to do that (Shaun Marcum and Ricky Romero each have six).
Interesting that Morrow and Romero is on the list with former Jay Marcum also there.
Re: "Leaders in no-hit scares" with Blue Jays Connections
Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:49 am
by illy
useless stat.
Re: "Leaders in no-hit scares" with Blue Jays Connections
Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:52 am
by flatjacket1
illy wrote:useless stat.
Not useless. It does have some correlation to talent, no matter how small. I would be surprised in Jo-Jo Reyes climbed atop this list.
I don't necessarily think its a good "stat"
Re: "Leaders in no-hit scares" with Blue Jays Connections
Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2012 3:09 am
by Seasontickets
Hardly useless...
It can kind of be reworded - How many times has a pitcher gone past 5 inning with out letting a runner on/or getting a base hit?
7/10 when the other team doesn't score for the first 5 innings, you're going to win. If you have a lights out bullpen like Detroit had last year - maybe closer to 100%.
If a pitcher can dominate like that 3 or 4 times a seasons? Well....
And it's also an indicator of upper level performance. ie. A pitcher's ceiling.
Re: "Leaders in no-hit scares" with Blue Jays Connections
Posted: Sun Apr 8, 2012 3:39 am
by satyr9
Well it is useless, but that doesn't mean it's bad. You can't use that stat to infer anything about those players, but it's still interesting regardless.
Sheesh, I luvs me some sabremetrics, but just because a stat can't tell you anything specific doesn't mean it's not worth repeating and chatting about.
Sure it's more likely guys with high-end stuff will lead this stat, but that's going to be true of the majority of pitching stat categories. Mostly, my guess is the earlier you cut this off and look at a longer list the more you'll see the top K/9 guys as they have fewer balls in play and therefore more chances to run clean on days where they've got good command. That being said, I'd bet there are years where if you looked at this you'd see a guy like T.Hudson or S.Marcum somewhere on it and be kind of puzzled how they got there too. It's a nice little broadcast factoid, but it definitely is useless, in the way lots of great things are without utility beyond curiosity and enjoyment.