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FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victorino?
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:18 am
by polo007
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/phil ... ino-051012I don’t care what Philadelphia Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. says — I’ll believe his team is a seller when I see it.
But know this:
According to major league sources, at least one club — the Toronto Blue Jays — already has engaged in dialogue with the Phils about their top potential free agents, left-hander Cole Hamels and Shane Victorino.
Now hold your tweeting fingers and continue reading. No trade is close. No trade is even likely. And context is important:
* Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos routinely inquires on star players, just as he did last offseason when he talked to the Seattle Mariners about right-handers Felix Hernandez and Michael Pineda.
* The Phillies are not going to quit on the season easily, not when they already have sold more than 3 million tickets and assembled a $175 million payroll, second only to the New York Yankees.
* The Phillies can’t give up on the season easily, not until they get a better sense of how second baseman Chase Utley (knee) and first baseman Ryan Howard (Achilles) will contribute when healthy.
But Amaro, while not specifically addressing the Blue Jays as a potential trade partner, told FOXSports.com on Thursday night that he is not ruling out any possibilities.
“My job is to keep all lines of communication open, for the good of the club today and tomorrow,” Amaro said. “I can’t shut any doors down. You try to be creative. And there are a lot of creative GMs out there who have different goals.”
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:24 am
by U_Mad
we'd prob have to give up one of JPA/d'arnaud/Gose/Snider + 2 high ceiling prospects like (one of ) Nicolino/Sanchez and Jimenez,
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:30 am
by Wally West
U_Mad wrote:we'd prob have to give up one of JPA/d'arnaud/Gose/Snider + 2 high ceiling prospects like (one of ) Nicolino/Sanchez and Jimenez,
I don't really see why we would be interested in Victorino but Hamels definitely makes sense. Probably just A.A. doing his due diligence but any deal for Hamels would have to settle around a package starting with d'Arnaud. Phili apparently have been one of the teams trying to acquire him these past few months. And at least 2 of our high ceiling arms. High price for AA to pay to acquire an ace but we'll see how these next few months play itself out.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:18 am
by UN-Owen
Meh. Just sign Hamels next offseason and hold onto our assets...
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:35 am
by Parataxis
UN-Owen wrote:Meh. Just sign Hamels next offseason and hold onto our assets...
Pretty much. If they want a prospect for him, great. (or if he signs an extension, then all bets are off). But for a half season Hamels rental? Three top prospects seems a bit high.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:45 am
by tecumseh18
Parataxis wrote: But for a half season Hamels rental? Three top prospects seems a bit high.
Especially when our strength right now is SP. Sure Romero has been pitching like a #2 the last few games, and you just don't know what to expect with Morrow, but this team has other priorities. Let's not empty the farm system as a short-term move to reinforce pitching just yet.
But with an extension - hell yeah.
Hey, Cecil could probably do well in the National League.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:11 am
by kavan
Lind-Gose plus pitching prospect for anything we are trying to pick up. Or I see either JP or Travis D on the way out if not one of Snider/Thames.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:26 am
by jim todd
I'd rather they wait and simply sign him, but either way Hamels would be a fantastic addition to this team.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:29 am
by Back2back2back
UN-Owen wrote:Meh. Just sign Hamels next offseason and hold onto our assets...
Exactly.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:02 pm
by -MetA4-
This isn't happening.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:30 pm
by jrsmith
-MetA4- wrote:This isn't happening.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:50 pm
by HangTime
While he's at it, AA should ask about getting Halladay back.
I wonder what that'll cost us.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:22 pm
by Attonitus
Maybe we should inquire about that Halladay kid, I hear he is pretty good.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:48 pm
by pinklemo
i'd inquire victorino, but not hammels, it would be only a rental since he's due to make at least 100 million in the offseason and not sure prospects are worth a draft pick in the 2013 draft. victorino is very underrated, love to see him on this team!
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:50 pm
by torontoaces04
jrsmith wrote:-MetA4- wrote:This isn't happening.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:21 pm
by WpgPage
Would love Hamels on this team hopefully the Jays are willing to pay a price similar to what Lee got a few years ago. A rotation of Hamels-Morrow-Romero-HA-Drabek looks real nice.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:55 pm
by Drake_02
I would prefer to sign Hamels in the Offseason. No need to pay that price for a rental.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:00 pm
by Drake_02
Usually when it's rumoured, it's not going to happen. AA does his things quietly.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:08 pm
by CapeCrusader
Pretty sure they're was a rumor about this a while ago. I guess AA is trying again, but unless he signs an extension then i'd rather test our luck in the offseason.
Re: FOXSports.com: Are Jays interested in Hamels and Victori
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:16 pm
by fredericklove
HangTime wrote:While he's at it, AA should ask about getting Halladay back.
I wonder what that'll cost us.
Lawrie and all the beautiful women from Toronto.