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JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:34 pm
by Wo1verine
Morosi was on the fan590, and suggested a Yunel for Balfour trade and would 'argue' the trade makes us a better team! What do you guys think?
I personally wouldn't trade one of the better SS for a RP just to open up a spot for Hech. In fact, i don't think i'd move Esco period at this point! Unless he was part of a deal that got us a masher or top of the rotation SP.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:40 pm
by flatjacket1
That's the worst trade scenario ever. Escobar is a top 5 SS over the last 4 years and likely still has good years left in him.
Trading a position player for a reliever is stupid unless he is David Cooper level. I'd do Cooper for Balfour.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:46 pm
by BigLeagueChew
Seems like that trade would hurt us more than help.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:48 pm
by Tyrone Slothrop
Morosi is an idiot
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Mon Jun 4, 2012 11:05 pm
by Wally West
Morosi is joking right?
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Mon Jun 4, 2012 11:06 pm
by torontoaces04
Tyrone Slothrop wrote:Moronsi is an idiot
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Mon Jun 4, 2012 11:24 pm
by Brinbe
Balfour as in Grant Balfour? bahahahahahahaha you gotta be f'n kidding me with that ****.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Mon Jun 4, 2012 11:24 pm
by Avenger
I like the fact that Morosi actually gives the Jays some attention unlike other National BAseball writers but the guy is so **** dumb
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Mon Jun 4, 2012 11:29 pm
by flatjacket1
Avenger wrote:I like the fact that Morosi actually gives the Jays some attention unlike other National BAseball writers but the guy is so **** dumb
This sums it up well.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 12:00 am
by Randle McMurphy
It makes me wonder if Morosi actually watches baseball.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 12:27 am
by Raptor_Guy
One of the better shortstops in baseball for a reliever..umm okay.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:16 am
by J.Kim
That's horrible.
I wouldn't even trade Yunel Escobar for a healthy Mariano Rivera going into his prime even knowing that he was going to be one of the most dominant closers of this generation...
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:16 am
by Al_Oliver
I suggest Marty York for JP Morosi
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:54 am
by torontoaces04
Al_Oliver wrote:I suggest Marty York for JP Morosi
Ewwwwwwww....Marty York.
That guy got fired from the Metro....THE METRO!!!!!!!
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 11:34 am
by Skin Blues
Yeah, obviously not gonna happen. Franchise shortstop for a scrub reliever
I don't know why Morosi felt like embarrassing himself like that.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 11:46 am
by baulderdash77
J.Kim wrote:That's horrible.
I wouldn't even trade Yunel Escobar for a healthy Mariano Rivera going into his prime even knowing that he was going to be one of the most dominant closers of this generation...
You wouldn't trade Yunel for Rivera circa 1996? That's crazy talk. Rivera had 52 WAR in front of him at that point. There's no way that Yunel has that in his whole career.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 12:28 pm
by Skin Blues
baulderdash77 wrote:J.Kim wrote:That's horrible.
I wouldn't even trade Yunel Escobar for a healthy Mariano Rivera going into his prime even knowing that he was going to be one of the most dominant closers of this generation...
You wouldn't trade Yunel for Rivera circa 1996? That's crazy talk. Rivera had 52 WAR in front of him at that point. There's no way that Yunel has that in his whole career.
Yunel has 18 through 5 seasons; it took Rivera 9 seasons to accumulate that many WAR, a span of time which includes his two best seasons.
For the WPA though, I'd go with Rivera, and it's not that close. As much as stat-heads (myself included) like to look at WAR and black-and-white numbers, Rivera has simply been much more valuable than his WAR indicates since he is so reliable in such high-leverage situations. There was no way to know back in 1996 that he would be this good and this healthy and this reliable for 15 years in a row, though. So... I wouldn't have traded 2012 Yunel for 1996 Rivera.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:16 pm
by Sifu
I assume Morosi believes Escobar can be replaced by Hech, but that is no reason to give Escobar away for essentially a bag of peanuts.
I'm sure that Escobar can fetch much more than Balfour on the open market if it comes down to it.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:23 pm
by LBJSeizedMyID
Was this a straight up deal or was there other pieces coming our way? Surely he wasn't implying a straight up deal, but I didn't hear the sound bite.
Re: JP Morosi suggests Escobar for Balfour
Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 1:31 pm
by dagger
@jonmorosi
#BlueJays have worst bullpen ERA in American League: 4.44. If they are serious about contending, that must be addressed. Soon.