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What not Deck or Jenkins?

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What not Deck or Jenkins? 

Post#1 » by number15 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:11 pm

with all the injuries to pitcher the JAYS have resorted to giving shots with no bodies.... why not bring in 2 of our older and better prospects in instead.

Deck McGuire and Chad Jenkins
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Re: What not Deck or Jenkins? 

Post#2 » by Holmes » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:18 pm

The answer is quite simple. They aren't MLB pitchers. They have been disastrous this year at Double A.
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Re: What not Deck or Jenkins? 

Post#3 » by Schad » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:20 pm

Because they are older, but not better. Deck has posted an ERA of 6.62 in double-A, while Jenkins has lost the plot and turned from a mediocre-but-manageable groundball artist into a Deckian launching pad.
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Re: What not Deck or Jenkins? 

Post#4 » by Holmes » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:42 pm

Sad part about Deck, is not Chris Sale, but the fact that he was already a well known low-upside 1st round pick to begin with at the 2010 draft. So seeing him struggle so mightly in double A is so defeating.
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Re: What not Deck or Jenkins? 

Post#5 » by Schad » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:00 pm

Holmes wrote:Sad part about Deck, is not Chris Sale, but the fact that he was already a well known low-upside 1st round pick to begin with at the 2010 draft. So seeing him struggle so mightly in double A is so defeating.


He wasn't universally considered a low-upside pick...not beyond this board, at least. Law liked him, and John Sickels believed that he'd be a good mid-rotation guy at least. A good #3 starter isn't actually low upside for any pick beyond the top five, so it wasn't a failure if he could become that. Unfortunately, the straightness of his fastball -- and the declining velocity thereof -- demonstrated why there ain't no such thing as a safe pitching prospect.
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Re: What not Deck or Jenkins? 

Post#6 » by Al_Oliver » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:01 pm

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Holmes wrote:Sad part about Deck, is not Chris Sale, but the fact that he was already a well known low-upside 1st round pick to begin with at the 2010 draft. So seeing him struggle so mightly in double A is so defeating.


He wasn't universally considered a low-upside pick...not beyond this board, at least. Law liked him, and John Sickels believed that he'd be a good mid-rotation guy at least. A good #3 starter isn't actually low upside for any pick beyond the top five, so it wasn't a failure if he could become that. Unfortunately, the straightness of his fastball -- and the declining velocity thereof -- demonstrated why there ain't no such thing as a safe pitching prospect.


how long before he becomes a reliever or a total bust?
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Re: What not Deck or Jenkins? 

Post#7 » by kwamebargnani » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:19 pm

number15 wrote:with all the injuries to pitcher the JAYS have resorted to giving shots with no bodies.... why not bring in 2 of our older and better prospects in instead.

Deck McGuire and Chad Jenkins

Have you seen their numbers? They're both write offs at this point.
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Re: What not Deck or Jenkins? 

Post#8 » by xAIRNESSx » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:57 pm

Too bad our high-celing pitchers are all in A-ball. :(
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