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Biogenesis Fallout: Braun first to admit, suspended for 2013
Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2013 11:57 pm
by rdtx2005
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/ ... estigationlooks like the gauntlet is coming down if this evidence is true

Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 12:21 am
by jaymeister15
and the dream season continues...
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 12:33 am
by Winggfly
Process may take awhile from what I've heard.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 12:43 am
by Ado05
Didnt Melky already serve his 50 game suspension?
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 12:51 am
by YogiStewart
Adrian_05 wrote:Didnt Melky already serve his 50 game suspension?
yep.
i'd be kind of surprised if they suspended Melky. the Yanks have 2 players on the list. yes!
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:20 am
by galacticos2
THE VIRK!
I hope AA was smart enough to insert a stipulation that ceases the contract if Melky gets caught again. What's the suspension for a 2nd offense? He's done for the year.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:23 am
by galacticos2
YogiStewart wrote:Adrian_05 wrote:Didnt Melky already serve his 50 game suspension?
yep.
i'd be kind of surprised if they suspended Melky. the Yanks have 2 players on the list. yes!
Cervelli = DL
A-Rod = DL
Means nothing. Yanks keep Yanking...pause
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:25 am
by vaff87
As much as I dislike A-Rod and Braun, I don't think it's fair to suspend guys unless they fail a test.
And suspending Melky again, wouldn't be fair at all.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:31 am
by Raider917
YogiStewart wrote:Adrian_05 wrote:Didnt Melky already serve his 50 game suspension?
yep.
i'd be kind of surprised if they suspended Melky. the Yanks have 2 players on the list. yes!
what is a possible way that they can suspend him again? he was suspended already for a violation he committed late last year. to get a second offense wouldn't he have to commit the offense after the first suspension?
even if they prove that he took steroids as far back as his yankees days, can they penalize him for that and call it a "second offense" even if it happened before his "first offense"?
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:36 am
by Ado05
Raider917 wrote:YogiStewart wrote:Adrian_05 wrote:Didnt Melky already serve his 50 game suspension?
yep.
i'd be kind of surprised if they suspended Melky. the Yanks have 2 players on the list. yes!
what is a possible way that they can suspend him again? he was suspended already for a violation he committed late last year. to get a second offense wouldn't he have to commit the offense after the first suspension?
even if they prove that he took steroids as far back as his yankees days, can they penalize him for that and call it a "second offense" even if it happened before his "first offense"?
From my understanding, Melky can not be suspeneded again, unless he were to get caught after his suspension finished. So he shouldnt get suspended for this situation.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:40 am
by Garmfay
Unless this was Melky getting caught again then I don't think he will be suspended. First time offender is 50 games can't "add" games to that..
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:49 am
by Ado05
I think the only way for Melky to get suspeneded again (for PED reasons) is if he were to get caught using PEDs from the day his suspension ended until he retires.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 2:01 am
by J-Roc
I think the problem was when this guy wrote out players names in full. He couldn't even initialize the their first name. Or the Victor Conti full initials. No, he wrote them out. Even spelled their names right. I'm sure Ryan Brahn would have found a way to get exonerated, like a speeding ticket.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 2:23 am
by Kapono
The A-Rod suspension is horrible news for the Jays. As it probably gives the Yankees an out from the terrible contract they owe A-Rod.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 2:43 am
by Randle McMurphy
Kapono wrote:The A-Rod suspension is horrible news for the Jays. As it probably gives the Yankees an out from the terrible contract they owe A-Rod.
Very doubtful.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 3:01 am
by galacticos2
Randle McMurphy wrote:Kapono wrote:The A-Rod suspension is horrible news for the Jays. As it probably gives the Yankees an out from the terrible contract they owe A-Rod.
Very doubtful.
Yeah Yanks were fighting before, but I doubt they could do it.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:07 pm
by Avenger
honestly, this is all based on sketchy legal grounds, an obvious PR move. I don't think they have clear direct evidence linking these players to wrongdoing, there's a good chance an arbitration panel will throw all these suspensions out. Melky also has the best case here even if they got him dead to rights, they can't suspend him twice for the same violation and it probably is the same violation. The same probably applies for Ryan Braun too but that case is even more complicated
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Thu Jun 6, 2013 2:16 am
by kayliecee
A couple of people have said Melky can only be suspended if he took steroids after his last suspension ended. I highly doubt that were he to be taking steroids DURING his suspension, he'd get away with it. I also highly doubt he was doing that, just to make things clear.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Thu Jun 6, 2013 4:43 am
by Geddy
I doubt they will give Melky a lengthy suspension but they'll probably give him some BS 10 day or so suspension just for being associated.
Re: MLB seeks to suspend A-Rod, Braun (Melky too!)
Posted: Thu Jun 6, 2013 8:43 am
by Randle McMurphy
kayliecee wrote:A couple of people have said Melky can only be suspended if he took steroids after his last suspension ended. I highly doubt that were he to be taking steroids DURING his suspension, he'd get away with it. I also highly doubt he was doing that, just to make things clear.
Can't suspend him for taking steroids after his last suspension without evidence that he used them this season, which would mean a positive drug test (which, of course, has yet to happen).
If their entire case against these players is built around the veritability of Bosch's testimony, MLB is going to have a difficult time getting any of these suspensions to stick, let alone another potential Melky suspension considering he's already served one for using Biogenesis' drugs.