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Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 3:27 pm**

Total draft bonus pool (from here): $9,458,500.

Signings Will Appear in BOLD

9 Hoffman, Jeff East Carolina (NC) RHP R/R JR 6'4" 185lbs DOB: 01/08/93 -- $3,080,800
11 Pentecost, Max Kennesaw State (GA) C R/R JR 6'1" 190lbs DOB: 03/10/93 -- $2,888,300
49 Reid-Foley, Sean Sandalwood HS (FL) RHP R/R HS 6'3" 216lbs DOB: 08/30/95 -- $1,128,000
83 Wells, Nick Battlefield HS (VA) LHP L/L HS 6'5" 180lbs DOB: 02/21/96 -- $661,800
114 Morgan, Matt Thorsby HS (AL) C R/R HS 6'1" 190lbs DOB: 01/27/96 -- $300,000
144 Thomas, Lane Bearden HS (TN) RF R/R HS 6'1" 210lbs DOB: 08/23/95 -- $750,000
174 Huffman, Grayson Grayson County College (TX) LHP L/L J1 6'2" 195lbs DOB: 05/06/95
204 Zehner, Zack Cal Poly - San Luis Obispo (CA) LF R/R SR 6'4" 215lbs DOB: 08/08/92
234 Shafer, Justin Florida (FL) RHP R/R JR 6'2" 182lbs DOB: 09/18/92 -- $160,000
264 Metzler, Ryan USC Aiken (SC) 2B R/R JR 6'3" 190lbs DOB: 03/20/93 -- $10,000
294 Romano, Jordan Oral Roberts (OK) RHP R/R JR 6'6" 200lbs DOB: 04/21/93 -- $25,000
324 Latz, Jake Lemont HS (IL) LHP R/L HS 6'2" 185lbs DOB: 04/08/96
354 Houck, Tanner Collinsville HS (IL) RHP R/R HS 6'5" 215lbs DOB: 06/29/96
384 Heidt, Gunnar College of Charleston (SC) 2B R/R JR 5'11" 195lbs DOB: 09/12/92
414 Mallard, Chase Alabama - Birmingham (AL) RHP R/R SR 6'2" 185lbs DOB: 11/22/91
444 McBroom, Ryan West Virginia (WV) 1B R/L SR 6'3" 240lbs DOB: 04/09/92
474 Papierski, Michael Lemont HS (IL) C S/R HS 6'3" 195lbs DOB: 02/26/96
504 Carpenter, Quinn Iowa Western CC (IA) RHP R/R J2 6'4" 195lbs DOB: 03/20/94
534 Isaacs, Dusty Georgia Tech (GA) RHP R/R SR 6'1" 190lbs DOB: 08/07/91
564 Brantley, Cliff Adelphi University (NY) CF L/R JR 5'9" 170lbs DOB: 09/15/92
594 Attaway, Aaron Western Carolina (NC) SS R/R SR 5'8" 170lbs DOB: 03/06/92
624 Lugbauer, Drew Arlington HS (NY) C L/R HS 6'3" 220lbs DOB: 08/23/96
654 Isaacs, Todd American Heritage School (FL) CF R/R HS 5'11" 175lbs DOB: 05/22/96
684 Pop, Zachery Notre Dame Catholic Secondary School (ON) RHP R/R HS 6'4" 225lbs DOB: 09/20/96
714 Fisk, Conor Southern Mississippi (MS) RHP R/R SR 6'2" 230lbs DOB: 04/04/92
744 Winemiller, Rob Case Western Reserve University (OH) RHP R/R JR 6'1" 195lbs DOB: 09/28/92
774 Wheatley, Bobby USC (CA) LHP L/L SR 6'5" 220lbs DOB: 02/04/92
804 Taylor, Owen Grand Junction HS (CO) 1B S/R HS 6'2" 200lbs DOB: 06/09/95
834 Carlson, Chris Cal Poly Pomona (CA) CF L/L SR 5'10" 185lbs DOB: 04/29/91
864 Murphy, Chris Billerica Memorial HS (MA) RHP R/R HS 6'4" 260lbs DOB: 02/11/96
894 Garcia, Kevin Loyola Marymount University (CA) C R/R SR 5'10" 190lbs DOB: 09/17/92
924 Pepe, Dave Pace University (NY) 2B L/R SR 5'9" 170lbs DOB: 10/15/91
954 Autrey, J.T. Lamar University (TX) RHP R/R SR 6'5" 225lbs DOB: 05/12/92
984 Wellbrock, Chase Houston (TX) RHP L/R SR 5'10" 200lbs DOB: 01/06/92
1014 Hinkle, Brandon University of Delaware (DE) LHP L/R SR 5'11" 180lbs DOB: 11/15/90
1044 Aquino, Joey San Diego Christian College (CA) RHP R/R SR 6'0" 195lbs DOB: 08/13/90
1074 Rivera, Yan Colegio Catolico Notre Dame HS (Puerto Rico) SS R/R HS 5'10" 146lbs DOB: 12/01/95
1104 Kraft, Michael University of Texas - San Antonio (TX) LHP L/L SR 5'11" 175lbs DOB: 09/03/91
1134 Weisenberg, Keith Osceola HS (FL) RHP R/R HS 6'5" 195lbs DOB: 12/06/95
1164 Lynch, James Pima CC (AZ) RF L/R J2 6'2" 195lbs DOB: 04/05/92
1194 Miller, Trent Middle Tennessee State (TN) OF R/R SR 6'1" 215lbs DOB: 08/05/91

Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 3:35 pm**

Graham's Cracker wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/prepxtra/status/475004860010467328[/tweet]

Jesse Smithey ‏@prepxtra 6h
@ChandlerGreer54 no. He chose not to discuss financial details other than to say he got better than fifth-round slot value.

Noted.

Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 4:29 pm**

http://www.insidenova.com/sports/prince ... f887a.html

Signs.

Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 4:58 pm**

It's crazy how much money is given to a high school student. The draft and entire minor league system has to be an absolute money pit.

Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 5:40 pm**

Clint Longenecker @Clint_BA · 37m
TOR has signed 4th rd pick C Matt Morgan- athletic backstop w/ arm strength- and 8th round RHP Justin Shafer- 2-way player, FB up to mid 90s

Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 6:02 pm**

Santoki wrote:It's crazy how much money is given to a high school student. The draft and entire minor league system has to be an absolute money pit.

The draft is incredibly good value for teams. We'll end up spending a shade under $10m on the draft; if exactly one of the players in this draft make the majors and produce 3 WAR over their first three big league seasons, we'll have recouped the money spent -- relative to what you'd need to spend in free agency for that production -- and then some.

Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 6:12 pm**

One who will get away, but would be thrilled to be re-drafted by the Jays in three years.

http://www.canadianbaseballnetwork.com/ ... d-drafted/

Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 8:22 pm**

Edited the total draft pool into the OP.

Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 8:46 pm**

Schadenfreude wrote:Edited the total draft pool into the OP.

Is that below or at slot level?

Posted: **Sun Jun 8, 2014 9:14 pm**

Cyrus wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:Edited the total draft pool into the OP.

Is that below or at slot level?

That is the slot level for our picks in the top ten rounds. MLB restricts teams to spending that amount as a total bonus pool, plus up to $100k per pick after the top ten rounds. We can exceed that by a further 5% (bit under $500k) and only incur a financial penalty; exceed it by more than 5% and we'd have to surrender first round picks in future drafts, which isn't happening.

That they restrict teams to that owes largely to the fact that the Jays -- and a couple other teams -- started gaming the system and spending massive piles of cash in the draft.

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 3:28 am**

Schadenfreude wrote:
Cyrus wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:Edited the total draft pool into the OP.

Is that below or at slot level?

That is the slot level for our picks in the top ten rounds. MLB restricts teams to spending that amount as a total bonus pool, plus up to $100k per pick after the top ten rounds. We can exceed that by a further 5% (bit under $500k) and only incur a financial penalty; exceed it by more than 5% and we'd have to surrender first round picks in future drafts, which isn't happening.

That they restrict teams to that owes largely to the fact that the Jays -- and a couple other teams -- started gaming the system and spending massive piles of cash in the draft.

Yeah i know the rules, i'm just curious did we actually sign him to slot value? Below slow? Or above slot, etc.

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 3:48 am**

Cyrus wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
Cyrus wrote:

Is that below or at slot level?

That is the slot level for our picks in the top ten rounds. MLB restricts teams to spending that amount as a total bonus pool, plus up to $100k per pick after the top ten rounds. We can exceed that by a further 5% (bit under $500k) and only incur a financial penalty; exceed it by more than 5% and we'd have to surrender first round picks in future drafts, which isn't happening.

That they restrict teams to that owes largely to the fact that the Jays -- and a couple other teams -- started gaming the system and spending massive piles of cash in the draft.

Yeah i know the rules, i'm just curious did we actually sign him to slot value? Below slow? Or above slot, etc.

That is his slot value and that was what he signed for, according to this article posted by Met:
http://m.insidenova.com/sports/prince_w ... l?mode=jqm
I don't think the OP has a code for above or below slot yet.
(edit: actually, we may be on form. i think we've done green for over, red for under, and black for slot in the past)

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 3:58 am**

Cyrus wrote:Yeah i know the rules, i'm just curious did we actually sign him to slot value? Below slow? Or above slot, etc.

Ah, okay. I didn't edit anything with the players themselves. We don't yet know dollar figures for any of the others, beyond the fact that Lane Thomas himself stated that he signed above-slot.

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 7:38 am**

Sean Reid-Foley is signing. I think he mistook Dunedin for Clearwater, but whatever...

Sean Ian Reid-Foley @SReidFoley21 · 3h
Start my job tomorrow in Clearwater tomorrow. It's exciting. Leaving a lot of family and friends in jax. Thanks for all the support. ✊⚾️

Sean Ian Reid-Foley @SReidFoley21 · 3h
I'll also be working with @Cobi_Johnson dad. Great guy. I'm excited

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 7:57 am**

-MetA4- wrote:Sean Reid-Foley is signing. I think he mistook Dunedin for Clearwater, but whatever...

Sean Ian Reid-Foley @SReidFoley21 · 3h
Start my job tomorrow in Clearwater tomorrow. It's exciting. Leaving a lot of family and friends in jax. Thanks for all the support. ✊⚾️

Sean Ian Reid-Foley @SReidFoley21 · 3h
I'll also be working with @Cobi_Johnson dad. Great guy. I'm excited

LOL. Great job AA!

Reverse tactics: Ink SRF first for well-above slot. Only so much below-slot-money left for Hoffman, who has no option but to accept... The Reid-Foley contract sets Hoffman's price.

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 8:42 am**

SharoneWright wrote:Ink SRF first for well-above slot. Only so much below-slot-money left for Hoffman, who has no option but to accept... The Reid-Foley contract sets Hoffman's price.

That doesn't work. In order to go "well-above slot" for SRF you need to bank savings elsewhere...most likely in the first round (where you'll be able to make up the biggest margin). If you try to play hardball with Hoffman and he walks away (which he absolutely can, he DOES have leverage) then you lose his slot allotment all together and you are left scrambling to make up the over-slot bonus you just gave SRF from elsewhere. In that sense he could actually screw you as losing his slot allotment is worse than "only" making a marginal saving on his deal.

The idea that Hoffman has "no option" but to accept an offer is very naive. He was a $5+ million dollar arm before his injury...his elite talent gives him leverage to go back into next year's draft at which point he'll be nearing the end of his rehab (ie: he'll be healthy) and some team will gladly pay him ~$3+ million even if he doesn't pitch in a single game. He has too much talent, and TJ surgery is far too successful.

The more realistic scenario in this case is that we likely already have agreements in place with all of these top picks, and now we're just formally getting them signed. These are players we have been linked to for a while, we have a good idea of what it will take to sign each and the budged has already been planned out.

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 3:44 pm**

Heidt, a junior, still has one year of eligibility remaining, but said Saturday he will sign with the Blue Jays.

"We talked money before the draft and they gave me what I was looking for," Heidt said.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20140607/PC20/140609339

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 4:15 pm**

Anyone heard anything about Hoffman or Pentecost yet?

I'm assuming Hoffman signs based on his TJ surgery and the face that his Twitter page is littered with BJs tweets and background images.

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 4:27 pm**

Raps_Swingman wrote:Anyone heard anything about Hoffman or Pentecost yet?

I'm assuming Hoffman signs based on his TJ surgery and the face that his Twitter page is littered with BJs tweets and background images.

I asked a Hoffman question of Faleris in today's draft chat and this was his response:

Because I'm confident my voiced opinion will have no bearing on the actual leverage, I can say I had him valued at $3.5 MM. His leverage relies on his elite pre-injury profile (which is legitimate leverage) but his BATNA (best alternative to a negotiated agreement) isn't pretty -- rehab on his own, likely with help from his advising agency, and throw a handful of times before next year's draft. My own approach would be to reach an agreed upon minimum with a promise to give any and all savings up to the 15% allotment overage once the other selections have been negotiated.

I like his suggested approach.

Posted: **Mon Jun 9, 2014 4:36 pm**

Who is that? Do you have a link to the chat?

I found it.

https://basketballprospectus.com/chat/c ... 1401871828

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