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After the sweep by the Yankees, I felt the sick feeling inside that the season was slipping away... as has been 'the Blues Jays Way' these past twenty years. Then, when I saw the score of the Reds game, 8-0, I couldn't bear it anymore and just turned it off. It was starting to feel eerily similar to how it all went last year after that team's winning streak ended. I woke up, still not wanting to see the result, checked yahoo news and saw the headline, 'Jays complete historic comeback'. . This ain't last year. This is resilience. This team is a contender.

but if anthopolous doesnt do anything this will be a wasted oppurtunity.

still too many holes in the SP

COY0607 wrote:still too many holes in the SP

Our pitching has been disastrous as of late (which sadly might be closer to the norm). I'd like to get excited about a possible comeback streak, but the pitching still has me very worried.

Raps in 4 wrote:

COY0607 wrote:still too many holes in the SP

Our pitching has been disastrous as of late (which sadly might be closer to the norm). I'd like to get excited about a possible comeback streak, but the pitching still has me very worried.

Huh? The pitching has been good as of late, it's been the hitting that has let them down.

Yea what team have you been watching? The pitching has been more than sufficient over the course of the last 2 weeks.

Rbk_3 wrote:Yea what team have you been watching? The pitching has been more than sufficient over the course of the last 2 weeks.

The pitching is the only long-term worry. It's average at best right now and the health of guys like Hutch and Dickey is worrying at the moment. You have Buehrle coming back to earth, a pedestrian Happ, and a young Stroman. They're getting by but it could very wrong at any moment. Definitely need reinforcements soon.

This could be the year...but it won't be.

I see the pitching situation almost exactly like this years Leafs vs analytics argument.

All the advanced stats said the Leafs couldnt sustain winning at the pace they were playing. Some fans scoffed at this notion because the team was winning and atop the conference. Eventually things caved in and the advanced stats actually painted a accurate longterm picture of what would happen.

I see the Jays SP pitching in the same light. Sure right now they're holding it together and giving decent peformance but longterm I see them regressing and I certainly dont feel anywhere near comfortable going into a playoff series with this rotation. Heck say we get into a one game playin game and we throw out? ........Mark Buerhle? I guess it could be worse but I imagine they team we'd be playing would be throwing out a better SP.

If this team seriously wants to make a run at not just making the playoffs but actually going deeep then they have to shore up both the SP and 2B issues at the deadline.

I would guess that 2 of Sanchez, Norris, Pompey or Baretto wont be bluejays past this trade deadline.

This is such a jinx thread.

Beef up the lineup and add bullpen arms. Without SP, try to outslug teams early and then get to the bullpen ASAP. If the Jays are blown out early call it a day and try again tomorrow.

m83588333 wrote:Beef up the lineup and add bullpen arms. Without SP, try to outslug teams early and then get to the bullpen ASAP. If the Jays are blown out early call it a day and try again tomorrow.

You could call this the "1993 strategy", as opposed to the SP-oriented "1992 strategy".

Not stupid, especially given the ridiculous premium placed on starting pitchers now. Maybe the Moneyball play at this point is to focus on offence (without sacrificing defence).

We need to add 1 SP and a solid guy at 3B so Lawire can play 2B or a 2B with a bat. Then we can continue going forward. The arms of the future mean nothing since 2/3 never pan out. Once we are contenders we can always just buy talent like the Yankees have for years!

We have Gose, Lawire, and few years in EE, Jose, Reyes, Melky and even Rasmus lets get the most out of it today.

kavan wrote:We need to add 1 SP and a solid guy at 3B so Lawire can play 2B or a 2B with a bat. Then we can continue going forward. The arms of the future mean nothing since 2/3 never pan out. Once we are contenders we can always just buy talent like the Yankees have for years!

We have Gose, Lawire, and few years in EE, Jose, Reyes, Melky and even Rasmus lets get the most out of it today.

The problem with this is that we basically already made all-in moves last offseason. If we make similar moves this season, we'll gut the entire minor league system down low A ball. Given how expensive major league regulars are, whether via free agency or trade, I don't think we want to take this course.

Lateral Quicks wrote:

kavan wrote:We need to add 1 SP and a solid guy at 3B so Lawire can play 2B or a 2B with a bat. Then we can continue going forward. The arms of the future mean nothing since 2/3 never pan out. Once we are contenders we can always just buy talent like the Yankees have for years!

We have Gose, Lawire, and few years in EE, Jose, Reyes, Melky and even Rasmus lets get the most out of it today.

The problem with this is that we basically already made all-in moves last offseason. If we make similar moves this season, we'll gut the entire minor league system down low A ball. Given how expensive major league regulars are, whether via free agency or trade, I don't think we want to take this course.

All though I agree, I think its even more expensive to have empty seats and no play off games. I think we can make a fair bit of revenue by making a playoff push this year. Sure the minors will suffer but we have some new draft picks. We have to invest. David Price could be huge! Mind you in the playoffs you going 3 man rotation honestly dont think R.A has it in him, I think Mark B is the only steady one we couldnt get him a W and Stroman. I think for playoffs we maybe okay but we def need another position player.

We are hurting in terms of consistency we click its amazing we dont we fail miserably. We need 1 Arm and 1 Position player in the infield to make a statement. We could do what we can but are consistency will be the down fall unless we get hot at the end and roll through! But if we hit a stretch like we did last two weeks before this week we are doomed.

... and boom goes the dynamite.

Eff this team!

Toronto sports teams are pathetic

I swear there's some kind of curse. Every time they start to make you excited they screw it up and make you remember that we're not allowed to have success.

It's all dkmo's fault.

Sorry guys, I am actually just a Baltimorie Orioles fan posing as Jays fan. There's always next year for your team.