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Player Development

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:09 pm
by Fairview4Life
http://grantland.com/features/2014-mlb- ... s-stroman/

The Top Prospect Progress Poll

Which MLB prospects have changed the most minds (for better or worse) since being promoted? With samples this small, we can’t always trust the stats. So we polled the industry to get the experts’ takes.


Marcus Stroman, RHP, Blue Jays: Stroman made his pro debut out of the bullpen after signing with Toronto following the 2012 draft, then transitioned to the rotation in Double- and Triple-A. Even so, some evaluators didn’t expect him to stick in a starting role. Scouts operate by building a mental database of players who’ve succeeded before, then looking for the same attributes in others. Stroman’s stuff earned him believers, but his 5-foot-9 frame made it difficult to come up with comps.

Following the same script he had in the minors, Stroman made his major league debut in relief in early May, but his big league bullpen career lasted only 10 days. After a brief return to the minors, he switched to a starting role with the Jays on May 31, becoming the first pitcher listed under 5-foot-10 to make a start in the majors since Fabio Castro made one (and only one) for the Phillies in 2007. The other sub-5-10 starters of the 21st century (Shane Komine, Michael Tejera, Arnie Munoz, and Daniel Garibay) were just as forgettable, so Stroman has already accomplished something special merely by making 14 starts.

Judging by his results so far, he’s going to make many more. While he’s been knocked out of a few starts early (including recording only two outs in his most recent start), he’s also shown the ability to go deep into games (including shutting down Detroit for nine innings earlier this month). He’s thrown strikes, gotten ground balls, and held his own against left-handed hitters, limiting opponents to an overall .226/.278/.316 line despite making more than half his starts in the Rogers Centre.

“[I] thought he was more likely to be an 8th inning set-up type or bottom of the rotation starter,” wrote one front-office type. “Thus far, he has proved capable of being a mid-rotation type.”

Said one scout who put Stroman on his list of positive surprises: “I was worried about the lack of an out pitch vs. LHHs, although I did think he’d be able to stick as a starter. The development of his cutter and fastball command have essentially molded him into a pitcher with three plus offerings.”

For now, at least, the talk about how Stroman is too short has subsided.

“I hope nobody mentions again how he should be a bullpen type just because of his frame,” another scout said.


Also receiving multiple up votes: Yordano Ventura (Royals), Aaron Sanchez (Blue Jays)


The Sanchize also appeared in the mixed feelings list too though.

Re: Player Development

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:05 pm
by dagger
An interesting thread title which I will appropriate. These two stories underscore that it's not always the coaches that introduce changes for a player. Change doesn't always happen by design.

First off, Kendall Graveman owes his rapid rise through the system to the accidental discovery that he could throw a mean cutter.

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/08/ ... he-minors/

Then Kevin Pillar

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/pi ... dividends/

Re: Player Development

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:55 pm
by Schad
dagger wrote:An interesting thread title which I will appropriate. These two stories underscore that it's not always the coaches that introduce changes for a player. Change doesn't always happen by design.


That's particularly true with pitchers...because their arm angles/releases/finger pressures are all pretty well unique, teaching a new pitch isn't a simple matter. There must be a dozen or more ways to throw a changeup, a bunch of variants on a cutter, even curveball/slider grips and releases vary from pitcher to pitcher. Most of them are constantly fooling around with some pitch or another, most of which never feature in a game.