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Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:10 am
by Black Watch
Monday we've Happ on the mound
Tuesday is Dickey
Wednesday is Stroman

I came on here to complain about Buck's defense of Wins as a metric by which to grade pitchers, only to find that there isn't a series thread.

Let's commiserate together, motherfrrruckers!



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Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:21 am
by Randle McMurphy
Navarro's pitch framing ability is horrible. He's cost Happ several strikes an inning tonight.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:27 am
by Michael Bradley
Randle McMurphy wrote:Navarro's pitch framing ability is horrible. He's cost Happ several strikes an inning tonight.


If the Jays had any money to spend this winter, I'd put the majority of it towards Russell Martin. The catcher position is by far the weakest spot in the Jays lineup, IMO.

As far as this game thread, if BLC stopped giving a ****, that's a pretty big sign that the season is over (if the Jays play over the last month wasn't indication enough).

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:46 am
by Lateral Quicks
So it goes without saying we're witnessing another pathetic performance tonight... not surprised at the lack of comments.

The last bit of the season is going to be ugly, but I'm sure they'll put a streak together near to end just to tease us about next year.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:51 am
by BigLeagueChew
Buchholz tossing a gem. Damn 2 seamers.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:58 am
by Mehar
Lateral Quicks wrote:So it goes without saying we're witnessing another pathetic performance tonight... not surprised at the lack of comments.

The last bit of the season is going to be ugly, but I'm sure they'll put a streak together near to end just to tease us about next year.


Calm down Lateral Quicks. The baseball season is 162 games, and it is important to stay positive. Once Lawrie comes back and this team is fully healthy, they will make the run that everyone is hoping for. It is important to stay positive, and it is too early to be a pessimist. It is still early man. It is still early.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:01 am
by Sifu
Jays are making the Bosox look like champs and Bucholz look like cy freaking young

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Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:06 am
by Randle McMurphy
Sifu wrote:Jays are making the Bosox look like champs and Bucholz look like cy freaking young

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Well, he did have a sub 2 ERA last year. Had to think he wouldn't struggle forever. He's obviously more than capable of good pitching and has dominated this team many times before.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:11 am
by Randle McMurphy
Amazing quote from Bautista tonight:

When Bautista was asked whether #bluejays ownership dedicated to winning: “I don't have enough information to answer that question."

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:15 am
by Steven1562
When you can't even get more then 2 hit against Clay Buchholz your not making the playoffs :o

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:19 am
by Geddy
Butholz is still on 81 pitches so I doubt we'll see the bullpen at this rate.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:23 am
by Fairview4Life
Baseball is the worst.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:24 am
by hyper316
I can't stand Rasmus' swing. How far away is Pompey from the big leagues?

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:24 am
by xAIRNESSx
Anyone else thinking Bautista's demanding a trade this off-season?

He seems pretty discontent.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:25 am
by Sifu
A lot of first pitch swings and just generally bad at bats. Normally I would say good pitching, but this is Butt-holes we are talking about.

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Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:26 am
by dagger
Randle McMurphy wrote:Amazing quote from Bautista tonight:

When Bautista was asked whether #bluejays ownership dedicated to winning: “I don't have enough information to answer that question."

Jose is forever polite with the media.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:27 am
by Fairview4Life
hyper316 wrote:I can't stand Rasmus' swing. How far away is Pompey from the big leagues?


Rasmus's swing is fantastic. When someone throws him a fastball and he hits it.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:28 am
by Lateral Quicks
Mookie Betts could be a heck of a player (and no, I'm not basing this on this game alone). Bautista for Betts + Swihart + another prospect would pique my interest.

Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:29 am
by dagger
dagger wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Amazing quote from Bautista tonight:

When Bautista was asked whether #bluejays ownership dedicated to winning: “I don't have enough information to answer that question."

Jose is forever polite with the media.


I thought Michael Hobson summed it up well.
When nothing was done in the off-season to improve a last place team management assured fans that money would certainly be available if needed during the season. Then during the spring fans were made aware by an independent source—Ken Rosenthal—that Blue Jay management was forced to play pass the hat with their players in order to collect enough money to afford Ervin Santana, a one year commitment that ownership was not willing to subsidize. But management assured Blue Jays fans money would be available if needed.

Whenever fan grew sceptical about the promise of money Beeston would make a public appearance and assure fans that money is indeed available. Beeston’s favourite line is that he’s never gone to ownership for a financial request and been turned down. If this is true then perhaps ownership is not to blame, perhaps it is Beeston. Perhaps Beeston never asks. It is likely however that ownership has told Beeston not to ask so they won’t need to turn him down—that way he can make his claim and not lie when doing so.

It was disturbing to hear that during the recent commissioner’s vote Beeston sided with White Sox owner and noted labour hawk Jerry Reinsdorf’s bid to appoint a commissioner willing to start a labour war with the players—a tactic that failed each of the eight times the owners tried before. Fortunately for baseball, and for the fans, Reinsdorf’s nominee Tom Werner didn’t gain enough support to upend favourite Rob Manfred for the position. Manfred may not be an ideal choice but there was a succession plan in place. Manfred’s intention, as it was under Selig, is to avoid any labour difficulties and prevent any more interruptions to a baseball season. As doddering as Selig appeared in recent years it is that direction which has stood him most proud.

For whatever reason Beeston supported Reinsdorf, and it makes me think that perhaps Beeston no longer carries the moniker of smartest man in baseball. Perhaps Beeston has occupied his lofty position for too long. I believe there are certain people, at one time smart and progressive, who grow more conservative in time and become a negative influence over the people who work for them. Perhaps Beeston has reached the end of his usefulness and is doing more harm than good in his position.

It may be time for Beeston to begin another presidential search—and this time he should immediately eliminate himself as an option.




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Re: Jays v. BoSox, Aug 25-27

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:30 am
by Death Knight
The only thing left in the season that would make me feel better is if an opposing pitcher throws a perfect game against the Blue Jays. It would be fitting.