Brett Lawrie's Historically Bad Night at the Plate

RapsFanInVA · Post #1 » by **RapsFanInVA** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 3:52 pm

http://deadspin.com/brett-lawrie-really-sucked-last-night-1696488294?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

0-4, 4K's on 12 pitches! That's the holy grail of Golden Sombreros!

Waylanderz · Post #2 » by **Waylanderz** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 5:37 pm

I wonder how many of those pitches he swung at...

savierdcglobe · Post #3 » by **savierdcglobe** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 5:43 pm

This is what Feliz threw at him

1 - Fastball, Slider, Slider
2 - Slider, Slider, Slider
3 - Curve, Curve, Curve
4 - Slider, Slider, Slider

I believe he swung at 60-70% of them, all out of the strike zone.

Hendrix · Post #4 » by **Hendrix** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 5:47 pm

I wonder what % of realgm\rs could do better than that. Foul off a pitch or two, and make it to 13 or 14 pitches, that is.

Ku-Bar · Post #5 » by **Ku-Bar** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 5:48 pm

better to burn out than fade away? I guess the only thing worse in terms of a competitors mind frame would but striking out looking x 4. A lot of competitive people like myself would argue it's worse to not even give it a go at golfing one and/or not even trying to make the fielding defense get you out by at least swinging at the ball.

in before we won the trade.

Lateral Quicks · Post #6 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 6:44 pm

Ku-Bar wrote:in before we won the trade.

I know you're probably joking, but it's definitely way too early to say that. Graveman made the A's starting rotation, and Nolin will probably get his chance soon enough. Barreto is Barreto. I'm not convinced Lawrie will ever fix his terrible swing mechanics, but even if he doesn't his defense and middling offense add to up to a solid regular.

In all likelihood I think both teams will make out pretty well.

Kurtz · Post #7 » by **Kurtz** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 7:11 pm

Hendrix wrote:I wonder what % of realgm\rs could do better than that. Foul off a pitch or two, and make it to 13 or 14 pitches, that is.

To be honest, I don't think anyone here would. Go to the batting cages, set the speed to 90 mph and see if you can make contact. I know I couldn't.

BigLeagueChew · Post #8 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 7:28 pm

Kurtz wrote:
Hendrix wrote:I wonder what % of realgm\rs could do better than that. Foul off a pitch or two, and make it to 13 or 14 pitches, that is.

To be honest, I don't think anyone here would. Go to the batting cages, set the speed to 90 mph and see if you can make contact. I know I couldn't.

At least %1 8-)

Santoki · Post #9 » by **Santoki** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 8:06 pm

Kurtz wrote:
Hendrix wrote:I wonder what % of realgm\rs could do better than that. Foul off a pitch or two, and make it to 13 or 14 pitches, that is.

To be honest, I don't think anyone here would. Go to the batting cages, set the speed to 90 mph and see if you can make contact. I know I couldn't.

I hadn't swung a bat in years outside of softball. I went to the cages and set it to 80 and I was whiffing 4/5 pitches. Now imagine adding in movement. We wouldn't even come close to touching a major leaguer's stuff.

Hendrix · Post #10 » by **Hendrix** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 8:47 pm

Kurtz wrote:
Hendrix wrote:I wonder what % of realgm\rs could do better than that. Foul off a pitch or two, and make it to 13 or 14 pitches, that is.

To be honest, I don't think anyone here would. Go to the batting cages, set the speed to 90 mph and see if you can make contact. I know I couldn't.

I dunno if I could. Maybe. I went to the batting cages with some buddies like a year ago. We were trying to do just that. Look for 90mph, to see if we could hit a major league fastball. Fastest ones at the park were only 75mph I think. I was all over 75mph, getting the head out early, and pulling them with good contact liners every time. But, some of my 'average joe' friends that didn't play ball growing up were struggling to make contact, were late, tipping balls off, etc...

But, 15+ extra mph, and throwing breaking balls is a completely different ball game than hitting constant, straight, 75mph pitches.

I think there's a batting cage just outside of London here actually that has one of those pitching machines with a video screen of a pitcher, that can go 100mph+, and throw breaking stuff. Would be interesting to try it out.

Randle McMurphy · Post #11 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 8:56 pm

Might be able to make contact with a fastball if I knew it was coming. I mean didn't Will Farrell even foul one off a few weeks back? 11/12 of those pitches were breaking balls, absolutely no shot on those.

Parataxis · Post #12 » by **Parataxis** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 9:16 pm

Kurtz wrote:
Hendrix wrote:I wonder what % of realgm\rs could do better than that. Foul off a pitch or two, and make it to 13 or 14 pitches, that is.

To be honest, I don't think anyone here would. Go to the batting cages, set the speed to 90 mph and see if you can make contact. I know I couldn't.

At 90mph I probably wouldn't even have time to swing.

Actually, now that I think about it, that might have gotten me a 1-2 count in at least one of those ABs. Winner!

s e n s i · Post #13 » by **s e n s i** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 9:27 pm

i wouldn't be able to make even the slightest contact with a big league offering but i'm pretty sure i could stand there and take a pitch or two

vaff87 · Post #14 » by **vaff87** » Wed Apr 8, 2015 9:41 pm

s e n s i wrote:i wouldn't be able to make even the slightest contact with a big league offering but i'm pretty sure i could stand there and take a pitch or two

And look cool doing it, of course.

zong · Post #15 » by **zong** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 12:22 am

Must be the turf.

Oh wait.

North_of_Border · Post #16 » by **North_of_Border** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:25 pm

Donaldson is everything Oakland can hope Lawrie will become..... But the odds are against it.

However, they got a nice package of Graveman, Nolin, Barreto.

Win Win trade for sides

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northernpuppy · Post #17 » by **northernpuppy** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:48 am

I played Junior AAA for Brampton and, although I'm super retired, I could foul off 85 MPH. 90+ with movement? Probs not haha.

LLJ · Post #18 » by **LLJ** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:21 pm

Kurtz wrote:
Hendrix wrote:I wonder what % of realgm\rs could do better than that. Foul off a pitch or two, and make it to 13 or 14 pitches, that is.

To be honest, I don't think anyone here would. Go to the batting cages, set the speed to 90 mph and see if you can make contact. I know I couldn't.

I could get lucky in a batting cage because it's just a machine spitting it out at the same speed in the same intervals. But against a human pitcher, the odds of touching a pitch would probably be less than 1%

Post #19 » by **Schad** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:46 pm

LLJ wrote:
Kurtz wrote:
Hendrix wrote:I wonder what % of realgm\rs could do better than that. Foul off a pitch or two, and make it to 13 or 14 pitches, that is.

To be honest, I don't think anyone here would. Go to the batting cages, set the speed to 90 mph and see if you can make contact. I know I couldn't.

I could get lucky in a batting cage because it's just a machine spitting it out at the same speed in the same intervals. But against a human pitcher, the odds of touching a pitch would probably be less than 1%

Yeah, I'm guessing that few of us could so much as foul tip a 90 mph fastball. I'm certain that none of us could touch an 80 mph changeup after seeing a couple 90 mph fastballs.

g.muresan · Post #20 » by **g.muresan** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:20 am

Two words:
Eric. Hinske.

Parallels:
- dealt between Toronto and Oakland
- wide bodied 3rd baseman
- "on base freak with speed and power"
- such a promising rookie season, SO much hope
- fizzle out within 3 years