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The Star: Jose Bautista boycotting Sportsnet 

Post#1 » by PurplePJs » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:47 am

Always good to see someone taking a stand.
Jose Bautista has refused to do one-on-one interviews with Sportsnet for the past three months in protest of the broadcaster’s refusal to pay the cost of a designer suit purchased by rookie Devon Travis as part of a TV segment aired on Sportsnet on May 19.


Bautista, a six-time all-star who has played in Toronto since 2008, has told Sportsnet executives he will not do any interviews until Travis is reimbursed for the cost of the suit or he is given a gift certificate from Gotstyle, the men’s clothier featured in the segment.


In the six-minute-and-30-second segment, Sportsnet host Hazel Mae takes Travis to Gotstyle in Toronto’s Distillery District, where the rookie second baseman models a handful of suits before settling on a two-piece, cobalt blue Ted Baker suit, a microprint shirt, hounds tooth tie and “cognac” lace-up shoes.

“This is pretty tight right here,” he says.


As a player in his first year in the big leagues, Travis’s salary this season is the major-league minimum $507,500.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/08/26/blue-jays-jose-bautista-boycotting-sportsnet.html
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Re: The Star: Jose Bautista boycotting Sportsnet 

Post#2 » by vaff87 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:02 am

Rogers knows no bounds in ways to cheap out, apparently.
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Post#3 » by azorian » Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:11 am

I don't think it's Rogers responsibility to comp the suit. That goes to gotsyle. Theyll be getting alot of bad rep with this article.

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Post#4 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:23 am

I love the professor talking about journalistic independence as it relates to Rogers Sportsnet and the Blue Jays (as if it ever existed to begin with).

Anyway, good for Jose to stand up for his teammate. **** Rogers and their penny pinching ways.
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Re: The Star: Jose Bautista boycotting Sportsnet 

Post#5 » by satyr9 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:17 pm

Yeah, Tibbetts is off her rocker here and I'm all for dramatically more stringent rules for journalists. This was a lifestyle entertainment piece and not crossover human interest journalism, that's **** nonsense. Of course it is. Pretending this isn't value-add for sponsors is **** outrageous. She's trying to divide up content by medium, namely if it's on a sports journalism channel, then in some form or fashion we should do everything we can to name it as sports journalism content, which is absurd and was ruined years ago. Whatever I think of the quality or bias of Sportsnet's reporting when it is reporting, especially in relation to Rogers properties, the segment with Travis trying on suits is not journalism. It's not human interest. It's **** filler fluff and advertorial by almost anyone's rational definition. The least the kid should get for appearing in their sneaky commercial is some free schwag.

Rogers knows it too. They don't want Travis to pay for it either, but it's not about Rogers and Travis. Rogers doesn't want to pay for the suit, 'cause they don't want to set a precedent with their advertisers/sponsors/whatever they want to weasel into calling them here, not that they want Travis to pay. Only because they've got clowns as producers that don't want to admit they work on Dr. Oz: Sports Edition and think of themselves as "journalists" do these problems ever arise. If they'd all just admit they're poor sad versions of Ryan Seacrest at best, then the contracts would be stipulated and no one would get butthurt about who's supposed to pay for what.

Although to be fair to the industry as a whole, I should give Brendan Kennedy credit for doing an actual piece of sports journalism, which is a borderline miracle.
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Post#6 » by dante9988 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:18 pm

This is why I'm not confident that were gonna pay price.
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Post#7 » by Flight33 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:42 pm

Can't he just return the suit?
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Post#8 » by YogiStewart » Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:43 pm

so let me get this straight:

you have a guy making $14 mil USD/year complaining that his teammate, making $500 000 USD/year, had to pay up to $5000 for a suit to a store that likely pays (tens of?) thousands in sponsorship dollars to Sportsnet a year.

and I, the viewer, and the TV reporters, who get paid nowhere near anything that the Rogers executives or baseball players get paid, get screwed out of interviews for this all-around money grab shell game. reporters can't do their job because a **** suit wasn't comped. and Jose takes a stand against Sportsnet, instead of paying for his teammate's $5000 suit.

let's talk about this story again when the next strike/walkout happens so i can remember to feel zero empathy for the players and the teams.
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Re: The Star: Jose Bautista boycotting Sportsnet 

Post#9 » by satyr9 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:14 pm

YogiStewart wrote:so let me get this straight:

you have a guy making $14 mil USD/year complaining that his teammate, making $500 000 USD/year, had to pay up to $5000 for a suit to a store that likely pays (tens of?) thousands in sponsorship dollars to Sportsnet a year.

and I, the viewer, and the TV reporters, who get paid nowhere near anything that the Rogers executives or baseball players get paid, get screwed out of interviews for this all-around money grab shell game. reporters can't do their job because a **** suit wasn't comped. and Jose takes a stand against Sportsnet, instead of paying for his teammate's $5000 suit.

let's talk about this story again when the next strike/walkout happens so i can remember to feel zero empathy for the players and the teams.


I don't feel empathy for Jose or Travis, but I have zero problem for Bautista calling Sportsnet on their bull. And no one is getting screwed out of anything. Did anyone even notice this dearth of Jose content before this? Since the boycott, Bautista stood up to that ESPN dillhole and I don't recall anyone saying, "Hey how come there isn't a sportsnet TV interview about this?" The greatest run in recent memory and not once have I heard anyone say, "You know what, it's weird how there's so little Bautista content available." He cut off one outlet for not doing their job well, that's it. It's just a business story, not a heartfelt emotional piece about justice and redemption.
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Re: The Star: Jose Bautista boycotting Sportsnet 

Post#10 » by distracted » Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:16 pm

YogiStewart wrote:so let me get this straight:

you have a guy making $14 mil USD/year complaining that his teammate, making $500 000 USD/year, had to pay up to $5000 for a suit to a store that likely pays (tens of?) thousands in sponsorship dollars to Sportsnet a year.

and I, the viewer, and the TV reporters, who get paid nowhere near anything that the Rogers executives or baseball players get paid, get screwed out of interviews for this all-around money grab shell game. reporters can't do their job because a **** suit wasn't comped. and Jose takes a stand against Sportsnet, instead of paying for his teammate's $5000 suit.

let's talk about this story again when the next strike/walkout happens so i can remember to feel zero empathy for the players and the teams.


I see this more as a co-worker comes up to you (they're employed by the same people), says it would be really great if we could do this segment with you, and then walks off saying "thanks for chipping in on the cost of this".

If my boss asked me to take a couple new employees out for lunch, and then started talking about 'integrity' when I went to expense said lunch, I would think they were cheap as ****.
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Post#11 » by Kurtz » Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:30 pm

YogiStewart wrote:so let me get this straight:

you have a guy making $14 mil USD/year complaining that his teammate, making $500 000 USD/year, had to pay up to $5000 for a suit to a store that likely pays (tens of?) thousands in sponsorship dollars to Sportsnet a year.

and I, the viewer, and the TV reporters, who get paid nowhere near anything that the Rogers executives or baseball players get paid, get screwed out of interviews for this all-around money grab shell game. reporters can't do their job because a **** suit wasn't comped. and Jose takes a stand against Sportsnet, instead of paying for his teammate's $5000 suit.

let's talk about this story again when the next strike/walkout happens so i can remember to feel zero empathy for the players and the teams.


So let me get this straight, you see a friend of yours get ripped off by his employer, and instead of taking a stand against this employer, you just cut your friend a cheque?
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Post#12 » by Rhettmatic » Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:31 pm

Smokescreen. He just doesn't want to talk to Barry Davis.
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Post#13 » by babystewie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:37 pm

The fact that the Star had to break this story and is one of the few media outlets not owned or actively working with Rogers should be a real eye opener for a lot of people.
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YogiStewart wrote:so let me get this straight:

you have a guy making $14 mil USD/year complaining that his teammate, making $500 000 USD/year, had to pay up to $5000 for a suit to a store that likely pays (tens of?) thousands in sponsorship dollars to Sportsnet a year.

and I, the viewer, and the TV reporters, who get paid nowhere near anything that the Rogers executives or baseball players get paid, get screwed out of interviews for this all-around money grab shell game. reporters can't do their job because a **** suit wasn't comped. and Jose takes a stand against Sportsnet, instead of paying for his teammate's $5000 suit.

let's talk about this story again when the next strike/walkout happens so i can remember to feel zero empathy for the players and the teams.

It's not about the money, it's about Rogers and their advertisers/sponsors being scumbag pieces of ****. But we already knew that I guess.
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Post#15 » by Komodo » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:08 pm

LOL! Straight out of a sitcom.
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Post#16 » by Fairview4Life » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:29 pm

YogiStewart wrote:so let me get this straight:

you have a guy making $14 mil USD/year complaining that his teammate, making $500 000 USD/year, had to pay up to $5000 for a suit to a store that likely pays (tens of?) thousands in sponsorship dollars to Sportsnet a year.

and I, the viewer, and the TV reporters, who get paid nowhere near anything that the Rogers executives or baseball players get paid, get screwed out of interviews for this all-around money grab shell game. reporters can't do their job because a **** suit wasn't comped. and Jose takes a stand against Sportsnet, instead of paying for his teammate's $5000 suit.

let's talk about this story again when the next strike/walkout happens so i can remember to feel zero empathy for the players and the teams.


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Post#17 » by I_Like_Dirt » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:32 pm

YogiStewart wrote:so let me get this straight:

you have a guy making $14 mil USD/year complaining that his teammate, making $500 000 USD/year, had to pay up to $5000 for a suit to a store that likely pays (tens of?) thousands in sponsorship dollars to Sportsnet a year.

and I, the viewer, and the TV reporters, who get paid nowhere near anything that the Rogers executives or baseball players get paid, get screwed out of interviews for this all-around money grab shell game. reporters can't do their job because a **** suit wasn't comped. and Jose takes a stand against Sportsnet, instead of paying for his teammate's $5000 suit.

let's talk about this story again when the next strike/walkout happens so i can remember to feel zero empathy for the players and the teams.


Wtf!?!

You're "getting screwed" out of interviews because ownership is scamming their employees into subsidising their advertising revenues and letting their lesser paid employees try to compensate for the fallout. Rogers is screwing you over yet you blame the players? Nobody should ever stand up to billion dollar organizations who rip them off, I guess. They should just keep cutting them cheques, and heck, start cutting them even more cheques.
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Post#18 » by YogiStewart » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:58 pm

Kurtz wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:so let me get this straight:

you have a guy making $14 mil USD/year complaining that his teammate, making $500 000 USD/year, had to pay up to $5000 for a suit to a store that likely pays (tens of?) thousands in sponsorship dollars to Sportsnet a year.

and I, the viewer, and the TV reporters, who get paid nowhere near anything that the Rogers executives or baseball players get paid, get screwed out of interviews for this all-around money grab shell game. reporters can't do their job because a **** suit wasn't comped. and Jose takes a stand against Sportsnet, instead of paying for his teammate's $5000 suit.

let's talk about this story again when the next strike/walkout happens so i can remember to feel zero empathy for the players and the teams.


So let me get this straight, you see a friend of yours get ripped off by his employer, and instead of taking a stand against this employer, you just cut your friend a cheque?


let me get this straight. and i will put this in common folk terms.
i get paid $1.6 million a year. my friend gets paid $50 000/year. he's asked to do an orientation during his first year at work. there's a miscommunication and he has to pay for his $500 suit/shoes that were part of the orientation. I wasn't involved in the planning of the orientation, but this really rankles me.
but wait one second.
in real life, i just worked a job where i needed to buy a new wardrobe. i spent over $1000 on new pants, shoes and shirts. no one reimbursed me for that.
but back to the story....
after this orientation, other companies will probably find my co-worker/friend to be really endearing. it got him exposure. all the sudden, companies are taking out for free lunches, paying him to do some work on the side, etc. That $500 suit that he paid for? that probably should have come for free from the suit company? it's paid for itself.
but this still really rankles me. a guy's gotta feed his family and $50K isn't going to make someone rich.
so i say "you know what? I've made $1.6 mil last year, i'll be making more than that next year, $500 is nothing. nothing." i give my friend a $500 gift certificate to a Harry Rosen's for his "birthday" and i look like a hero.
the last thing i'd do? complain that the company CEO did something wrong and stick my nose in someone else's business and then tell my company "I'm gonna show up to work and not talk to anyone in the HR department. give them the silent treatment." because we all know that if i did that, i'd look like a dick.

do any of you guys stop talking to your parents because they bought your sibling a crappy birthday gift? or a better analogy: you stop talking to your nieces and nephews because your grandparents gave a crappy Christmas gift?

this is none of Jose's business and he's taking a stupid, stupid stand. you translate this action to Jose of last year, yapping about balls and strikes repeatedly and i really wonder if the dude needs to learn how to be a professional. when to talk, when not to talk. yap to the ESPN guy, maybe. or maybe yap to the Royals about their manager's lack of class. all this yapping about lack of class and you're seeing a trend. yap yap yap. in the end, will he be remembered for these petty stands or for not being classy and finding a less fractious way to resolve things that bug him (and probably shouldn't bug him).

i can't stand Dion Phaneuf. but Bautista should pay attention as to how Phaneuf carries himself when the media has been **** on him for years. turns the other cheek. no one's dropping any deuces on Bautista. he's the golden boy. so the least he can do is learn to be more professional.
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Post#19 » by Lateral Quicks » Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:01 pm

Flight33 wrote:Can't he just return the suit?


Usually not, especially if it's tailored.
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Post#20 » by Lateral Quicks » Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:03 pm

Travis shouldn't have to pay for the suit if he only went shopping at the invitation of Sportsnet and/or the store and wasn't otherwise compensated.
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