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Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 4:15 am
by Raptors Realtor
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 4:29 am
by Schad
Oddsmakers adjust to gamblers' tendency to throw money at new shiny object.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 5:02 am
by SharoneWright
Odds Makers set the Price Line.....

(negotiator!)
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 5:09 am
by Parataxis
Oddsmakers don't care about the Red Sox's world series chances; the actual likelihood of them winning is irrelevant to Vegas.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 5:21 am
by SharoneWright
And yet, something to be said... Vegas must still consider the sharks with the real $$.
(I just personally believe Price is legitimately over-rated)
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 6:08 am
by Parataxis
The purpose of oddsmaking in Vegas is not to predict outcomes, but to flatten betting so that Vegas wins no matter who wins the World Series. If Vegas thinks that people are going to start betting on something, they'll lower the odds. If Vegas needs more people to bet on a team, they'll lengthen the odds. They care about people's perceptions (andyes, even the sharks), not about what's likely to happen on the field.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 8:01 am
by Randle McMurphy
Sounds like a good time to bet somebody other than Boston then.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 1:44 pm
by Skin Blues
Schad wrote:Oddsmakers adjust to gamblers' tendency to throw money at new shiny object.
Exhibit A: 2013
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:58 pm
by CrookedJ
Schad wrote:Oddsmakers adjust to gamblers' tendency to throw money at new shiny object.
Yep I bet the sox fans are chucking money on futures like crazy today.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 5:32 pm
by Lateral Quicks
IIRC Boston had the highest forecast WAR by Fangraphs prior to last season. Stuff happens.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 5:33 pm
by Santoki
Lateral Quicks wrote:IIRC Boston had the highest forecast WAR by Fangraphs prior to last season. Stuff happens.
They were supposed to win the AL East and came in last place. Maybe it's the curse of the Vegas favourite.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 6:18 pm
by The_Hater
Santoki wrote:Lateral Quicks wrote:IIRC Boston had the highest forecast WAR by Fangraphs prior to last season. Stuff happens.
They were supposed to win the AL East and came in last place. Maybe it's the curse of the Vegas favourite.
And wasn't Washington the War favourite in the NL? Great seasons by Harper and Scherzer couldn't stop their implosion.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 6:44 pm
by LLJ
We were expected to win the World Series back in September.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 7:08 pm
by Santoki
LLJ wrote:We were expected to win the World Series back in September.
Overwhelming favourites and "expert" picks heading into the playoffs. But I guess that was assuming our $30 million ace wasn't going to be our 3rd best starter.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Wed Dec 2, 2015 8:26 pm
by Hoopstarr
LLJ wrote:We were expected to win the World Series back in September.
Precisely the point at which I knew we wouldn't win the WS.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Sat Dec 5, 2015 8:18 pm
by North_of_Border
Remember a few years ago when Boston finished last. Oddsmakers didn't give them a chance next season. They won the Championship..... good job oddsmakers
The following season, coming off a fresh championship, Oddsmakers had Boston as a favorite to win it all again.... They finished at the bottom.... good job again
Lets see how next season goes...
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2015 3:41 am
by Parataxis
North_of_Border wrote:Remember a few years ago when Boston finished last. Oddsmakers didn't give them a chance next season. They won the Championship..... good job oddsmakers
The following season, coming off a fresh championship, Oddsmakers had Boston as a favorite to win it all again.... They finished at the bottom.... good job again

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You completely misunderstand the job of Oddsmakers.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2015 1:01 pm
by HoopAndTheHarm
Unless Boston starts suddenly getting production from some of the albatross position player contracts they have, I doubt they even sniff the playoffs over the next few years. Just enough time to waste Price's final productive years.
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2015 6:40 pm
by Dan2087
With all of their young talent and it being big Papis last year, I think the Sox win the division next year. They had a pretty strong end to the season from what I remember
Re: Oddsmakers like Red Sox' World Series chances more than Jays after Price signing
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2015 11:13 pm
by Raider917
thats what makes them odd