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Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:19 pm
by bringbackhoffa
Per several sources, Atkins is new GM of the Toronto Indians..i mean Blue Jays
@susanslusser on the twitter first to report
Discuss.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:23 pm
by YogiStewart
i assume LaCava's going to be given the golden parachute.

indifferent on the signing, kind of sort of. the most it does is gives you a window as to why AA left. always thought it was his ego. thinking Shapiro made it clear that he wanted things done his way with his fingerprints and his stamp. also betting this isn't the last Indians staff member to come to Toronto.

i guess the next 3- years will show us if it is a good move or not. no more riverboat gambling GM moves.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:24 pm
by Randle McMurphy
YogiStewart wrote:i assume LaCava's going to be given the golden parachute.

LaCava just signed an extension with the organization regardless of whether he was the GM or not. He'll stick as an assistant.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:27 pm
by KL78192020
Randle McMurphy wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:i assume LaCava's going to be given the golden parachute.

LaCava just signed an extension with the organization regardless of whether he was the GM or not. He'll stick as an assistant.



Doesn't mean much. He will end going wherever AA ends up.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:29 pm
by bringbackhoffa
Apparently contract is for same length and $ as Shapiro's first extension offer to AA. Substantial raise for Atkins

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:31 pm
by whysoserious
You have to expect that any executive is going to bring in his own people so this really isn't surprising. The results of the team could soften any backlash but this definitely hasn't been the best off-season PR wise for the Jays following a magical run and fans falling back in love with the team.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:32 pm
by Luv 4 da game
How has his track record been in Cleveland?

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:32 pm
by 0 - 100
Let's see what this guy can do

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:33 pm
by bringbackhoffa
Like any new GM, first order of business will be to re-build minor league depth

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:35 pm
by Skin Blues
So how long til AA becomes a team's President and hires LaCava as his GM? LaCava of course would still be his assistant but with title inflation he'd be able to lure him away for the "promotion". It's nice that in the mean time LaCava has some job security here. I imagine both sides know it won't last as soon as he gets a better offer elsewhere, where he's given more control over decisions rather than being third in the pecking order, at best, which is what he is in Toronto.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:38 pm
by 0 - 100
Skin Blues wrote:So how long til AA becomes a team's President and hires LaCava as his GM? LaCava of course would still be his assistant but with title inflation he'd be able to lure him away for the "promotion". It's nice that in the mean time LaCava has some job security but I imagine both sides know it won't last as soon as he gets a better offer elsewhere, where he's given more control over decisions rather than being third in the pecking order, at best, which is what he is in Toronto.


Nah. I think LaCava likes being second fiddle and is more comfortable in that role.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:41 pm
by Lateral Quicks
Not a huge fan of bringing in all these guys from the Cleveland organization. Networks matter, but bringing in people you know doesn't necessarily mean those people are right for the jobs.

I don't know much about Atkins so I'll wait to learn more about his team-building philosophy.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:43 pm
by YogiStewart
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Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:44 pm
by Randle McMurphy
0 - 100 wrote:
Skin Blues wrote:So how long til AA becomes a team's President and hires LaCava as his GM? LaCava of course would still be his assistant but with title inflation he'd be able to lure him away for the "promotion". It's nice that in the mean time LaCava has some job security but I imagine both sides know it won't last as soon as he gets a better offer elsewhere, where he's given more control over decisions rather than being third in the pecking order, at best, which is what he is in Toronto.


Nah. I think LaCava likes being second fiddle and is more comfortable in that role.

That's the feeling I've gotten for weeks. It really didn't sound like he even wanted the GM job whenever he was interviewed.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:45 pm
by bringbackhoffa
It one thing bringing in guys from winning organizations like the Giants, Cardinals, Rangers, but the flipping Indians. No God No Noo NOOOOOO

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:46 pm
by Nolan
So when's the name change coming? Can't say that I really like the sound of Toronto Indians.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:52 pm
by Yosemite Dan
ozzykhan16 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:i assume LaCava's going to be given the golden parachute.

LaCava just signed an extension with the organization regardless of whether he was the GM or not. He'll stick as an assistant.



Doesn't mean much. He will end going wherever AA ends up.


Seriously doubt that or he wouldn't have signed an extension after AA left. He was here before AA and looks to be here long after. Never seen any evidence that he has especially close ties with AA and would follow him wherever he goes. He's as to close to being a lifer for the team as you're gonna get. He seems the kind of guy who has close ties with the city and is happy working behind the scenes and won't leave on his own accord.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:54 pm
by bringbackhoffa
I guess they wanted someone b4 the winter meetings..but timing seems suspicious..lets get the fans to stop ripping us on the Price fiasco and have them rip on us for not hiring Lacava..

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 10:13 pm
by 0 - 100
At the end of the day, doesn't matter who the GM is, it's clear Shapiro is running the show.

Re: Ross Atkins named GM of Blue Jays

Posted: Thu Dec 3, 2015 10:18 pm
by blastttOFF
How many good pitchers did this guy draft? None. They got kluber via trade. Using the blue jays have more resources than the Indians argument is nil if you can't even draft good players