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How would you grade Shapiro/Atkins transactions to date?
It is hard to find a deal that hasn't worked out. Replacing Price with Happ was a huge coup.
The Smoak extension is odd, but not terrible money. I dislike the Hendriks trade. After a rough start he has settled into a pretty good second half. Other than that I am hard pressed to find a move I dislike. Chronological transactions listed below.
Claimed Pat Venditte from Oakland
Resigned Marco Estrada
Acquired Jesse Chavez for Liam Hendriks
Signed JA Happ to 3 year contract
Let David Price walk to Bosox on 7 year 217 million deal
Resigned Darwin Barney
Claimed Junior Lake off waivers from Baltimore
Acquired Darrell Ceciliani for PTBNL
Signed Gavin Floyd to 1 year contract
Claimed Jesus Montero from Seatle
Signed Franlin Morales to 1 year contract
Acquired Jason Grilli for Sean Ratcliffe
Drafted TJ Zeuch in First Round
Extended Justin Smoak for 2 years/8.25million
Acquired Melvin Upton for Hansel Rodriguez
Acquired Joaquin Benoit for Drew Storen
Signed Erik Kratz
Acquired Scott Feldman for Lupe Chavez
Acquired Mike Bolsinger for Jesse Chavez
Acquired Francisco Liriano, Harlod Ramirez and Reese McGuire for Drew Hutchison
Traded away Pat Venditte for PTBNL
The Smoak extension is odd, but not terrible money. I dislike the Hendriks trade. After a rough start he has settled into a pretty good second half. Other than that I am hard pressed to find a move I dislike. Chronological transactions listed below.
Claimed Pat Venditte from Oakland
Resigned Marco Estrada
Acquired Jesse Chavez for Liam Hendriks
Signed JA Happ to 3 year contract
Let David Price walk to Bosox on 7 year 217 million deal
Resigned Darwin Barney
Claimed Junior Lake off waivers from Baltimore
Acquired Darrell Ceciliani for PTBNL
Signed Gavin Floyd to 1 year contract
Claimed Jesus Montero from Seatle
Signed Franlin Morales to 1 year contract
Acquired Jason Grilli for Sean Ratcliffe
Drafted TJ Zeuch in First Round
Extended Justin Smoak for 2 years/8.25million
Acquired Melvin Upton for Hansel Rodriguez
Acquired Joaquin Benoit for Drew Storen
Signed Erik Kratz
Acquired Scott Feldman for Lupe Chavez
Acquired Mike Bolsinger for Jesse Chavez
Acquired Francisco Liriano, Harlod Ramirez and Reese McGuire for Drew Hutchison
Traded away Pat Venditte for PTBNL
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I already know what's Potential's grade
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They suck! Mostly because they signed JA Happ when they could have signed Gallardo for the same price! Ughh!!
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Just like the opinions on the Raps board, I switch from A to F, and back again, every few hours.
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I gave them a B. The only negative deal they've made so far is the Smoak deal.
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I said B. Lots of good, even solid, moves and a couple of bad ones. Smoak extension continues to look worse by the day, I never liked the Liam trade particularly because he had such a great year and his confidence was sky-high as a Jay, Chavez stunk up the joint.
The trades for Liriano + prospects, Benoit, and Grilli all look to be absolute genius so far. Happ and Estrada signings have been well above value.
Everything else has been unspectacular to good. Good to very good job overall.
The trades for Liriano + prospects, Benoit, and Grilli all look to be absolute genius so far. Happ and Estrada signings have been well above value.
Everything else has been unspectacular to good. Good to very good job overall.

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I should put up a parallel poll on AA reign. Curious to see how opinions compare. I actually put Shapiro between an A and a B. Happ deal really tips the scales.
No complete homeruns like Donaldson deal, but then no total crap like Dickey trade.
No complete homeruns like Donaldson deal, but then no total crap like Dickey trade.
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They haven't really done anything major so it's silly to already be grading them. Only bad move they've made so far is extending Smoak, but again, that wasn't a major move. The Happ signing was their best move.
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No drafting Biagini on the list? The guy has been a top 20 reliever in baseball this season and they got him for nothing.
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Well, picking up Grilli and Benoit for almost nothing has been a big plus. Liriano has had one good start now, let's see if this becomes a trend. Upton seems to be coming around, slowly, and for the financial cost, it's bearable.
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Randle McMurphy wrote:No drafting Biagini on the list? The guy has been a top 20 reliever in baseball this season and they got him for nothing.
A good point. And the totality of the moves have kept the Jays in contention, while managing complexities like walk years and Sanchez's innings. By staying in contention, they've kept the money flowing into the till to the point where Rogers is highlighting it in quarterly earnings releases, a possible sign that the impact is enough to sustain a $150-160m payroll next season. That. in turn, has kept people from assuming our soon to be free agents are all goners, so there are fewer trade rumours and distractions around the team than if they were playing .500 ball. It should give Shapiro a bit more elbow room to work this winter. The team obviously will want to try to bridge what they have now with the arrival in 2-3 years of some cheap rookie talent that can begin the transition from our older players as their deals near an end.
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Randle McMurphy wrote:No drafting Biagini on the list? The guy has been a top 20 reliever in baseball this season and they got him for nothing.
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So giving a player a 4mill a year deal is the worse thing he did and best score is a b?
Really..
Let's not forget about getting an ace for less the price and getting good pieces while replenishing the farm..
So he has been able to keep us competitive with at worst one small bad contract while replenishing the stock..
That has got to be an a right?
Really..
Let's not forget about getting an ace for less the price and getting good pieces while replenishing the farm..
So he has been able to keep us competitive with at worst one small bad contract while replenishing the stock..
That has got to be an a right?
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The only major mistake they've made so far is extending Smoak after he had one hot month. But it's not a huge contract and we can just eat/move the contract if worst comes to worst. The Chavez trade will get panned, but I feel like Chavez was kinda screwed over here. He just didn't get a set role in the pen. Would be nice to have Hendriks right now though, he'd be a solid upgrade over Tepera.

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first place deep into august. solidifying the bullpen (biagini, grilli, benoit) for a bucket of baseballs. they've done well.
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Randle McMurphy wrote:No drafting Biagini on the list? The guy has been a top 20 reliever in baseball this season and they got him for nothing.
My bad. I was working off a few sites with transactions list and didn't see it. But that was a pretty solid move. Kind of cancels out losing Hendriks who had similar roll.
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dagger wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:No drafting Biagini on the list? The guy has been a top 20 reliever in baseball this season and they got him for nothing.
A good point. And the totality of the moves have kept the Jays in contention, while managing complexities like walk years and Sanchez's innings. By staying in contention, they've kept the money flowing into the till to the point where Rogers is highlighting it in quarterly earnings releases, a possible sign that the impact is enough to sustain a $150-160m payroll next season. That. in turn, has kept people from assuming our soon to be free agents are all goners, so there are fewer trade rumours and distractions around the team than if they were playing .500 ball. It should give Shapiro a bit more elbow room to work this winter. The team obviously will want to try to bridge what they have now with the arrival in 2-3 years of some cheap rookie talent that can begin the transition from our older players as their deals near an end.
The one move (or non-move) that may come back to haunt them is not resigning Edwin in the spring. They likely would have had a discount with manageable term. Probably could have had him for 4 years at 80-100. I suspect Boston will offer him significantly more and they will have a difficult decision to match.
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If I'm going to criticize anything it's probably that they didn't try and get another lefty for the bullpen. I'm sure that in the postseason that Liraino will shift over there but having an actual reliever who throws from the left would be nice so we can stop calling up Aaron Loup to be our second lefty.
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didn't know the team traded Venditte

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Pretty happy in general, i knew jesse chavez would stink but shapiro/atkins quickly fixed their mistake. I hope thr same goes for smoak.