Is trading Upton for a reliever a smart decision?

purelystellar00 · Post #1 » by **purelystellar00** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:35 pm

Upton batted .194 during the time he spent with the Jays during the ladder end of last season. I understand he did hit a homer in the post-season but I think Carrera played better in the postseason than he did.

I would much prefer to have Carrera or Pompey full time in left field, or for Carrera and Pompey to split time their just because I don't see Upton hitting for average if he is a 4th outfielder.

Any thoughts on Upton?

azorian · Post #2 » by **azorian** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:40 pm

I can't imagine we would get any value. For what we're paying him his speed and left handed bat

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bluerap23 · Post #3 » by **bluerap23** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:21 pm

If you can find a reliable reliever absolutely. But those are in pretty high demand right now. I would be surprised if someone would be willing to move one for upton.

BigLeagueChew · Post #4 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:42 pm

The Jays bullpen seems to always get patched as the season progresses. You can trade fringe prospects for relief pitchers, like last year when we acquired Grilli. Does not look like the greatest bullpen right now on paper though.

R. Osuna (CL)
J. Grilli
D. Barnes
J. Biagini
R. Tepera
A. Loup
M. Bolsinger
M. Dermody
C. Girodo
G. Sparkman

The_Hater · Post #5 » by **The_Hater** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:04 pm

You need to trade quality to get quality back. Pretty simple concept.

Skin Blues · Post #6 » by **Skin Blues** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:38 pm

Nobody is going to give us anything for Upton. The Padres got a garbage prospect for Upton from us last season and since then he's been a dumpster fire. Capable MLB relievers cost at least $4M/year in free agency, nobody is going to give up that value for him.

bluerap23 · Post #7 » by **bluerap23** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:53 am

BigLeagueChew wrote:The Jays bullpen seems to always get patched as the season progresses. You can trade fringe prospects for relief pitchers, like last year when we acquired Grilli. Does not look like the greatest bullpen right now on paper though.

R. Osuna (CL)
J. Grilli
D. Barnes
J. Biagini
R. Tepera
A. Loup
M. Bolsinger
M. Dermody
C. Girodo
G. Sparkman

Don't forget B. Schultz. The 100 Mph man.

BigLeagueChew · Post #8 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:03 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
Don't forget B. Schultz. The 100 Mph man.

The Jays depth chart site didn't list him , included Sparkman the rule 5 pick and 3 lefties because we lost Cecil . Can't see us having 3 lefties though until rosters expand late in the season.

dballislife · Post #9 » by **dballislife** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:17 am

dont mind my language but u aint getting s*** for upton

BramptonYute · Post #10 » by **BramptonYute** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:30 pm

probably not since he's gonna be a starting OF'er for the team.

Skin Blues · Post #11 » by **Skin Blues** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:56 pm

BramptonYute wrote:probably not since he's gonna be a starting OF'er for the team.

Best (worst?) case scenario has Upton getting 250 PA's as the weak side of a platoon in LF. He'll lose practically every start vs RHP to either Carrera or Pearce. He's very expendable, but is more likely to be released than traded since it's unlikely anybody wants him.

Xaos · Post #12 » by **Xaos** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:14 pm

There are still some pretty decent arms in FA. Boone Logan, Jerry Blevins and Travis Wood would be a good fit on this team.

rarefind · Post #13 » by **rarefind** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:43 am

A trade of Upton will yield nothing more than the type of relievers that will be readily available when teams waive guy out of options after ST to get to their 25 man roster.

ldnk · Post #14 » by **ldnk** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:00 pm

The_Hater wrote:You need to trade quality to get quality back. Pretty simple concept.

I'm not thrilled with the roster but now probably isn't the time to spend money either. Better to sit back and see some of the guys who get camp invites/get waived because of surprises in camp and try and poach another Grilli type guy rather than throwing prospects to get stuff. that and Upton gets you nothing at this point and there is a greater chance that he rebounds to be a minimally valuable asset rather than useless dump to try and get a questionable reliever at this point.

North_of_Border · Post #15 » by **North_of_Border** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:41 am

Upton was having a career rebirth in San Diego. The guy was a beasting it, by his standards. Yet, all the Padres got for him was minimal.

Then he proceeds to stink it up in Toronto. I doubt he us worth anything worth while in a trade now.... other than his low low salary, not much positives

Best thing to do is let it play out. Maybe he rebounds again. Maybe not. At worst we have a speedy runner on a cheap contract. Easy to just release him if he stinks too much to handle.

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The_Hater · Post #16 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:30 pm

North_of_Border wrote:Upton was having a career rebirth in San Diego. The guy was a beasting it, by his standards. Yet, all the Padres got for him was minimal.

Then he proceeds to stink it up in Toronto. I doubt he us worth anything worth while in a trade now.... other than his low low salary, not much positives

Best thing to do is let it play out. Maybe he rebounds again. Maybe not. At worst we have a speedy runner on a cheap contract. Easy to just release him if he stinks too much to handle.

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It should be noted that Upton's San Diego rebirth consisted of about 600 AB's of slightly above league average production. Or basically the level Justin Smoak hit like in 2015. And he was well below average against RHP.

If he's anything other than a strict platoon player, which he could be effective with, it's not going to end well.